anxiety attacks, panic attacks = depression.

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  1. raduv1

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    This illnesses you have trouble explaining even to close family or understanding the illness with member's of your family who have these symptoms.

    I started getting panic attacks in my early 20s and the problem with discussing it for me back then is I could never figure out what started it to begin with . This illness because you can't diagnose it then leads to depression and a downward spiral of not understanding what is wrong with you. This is the frustration of not knowing why and because of the stigma involved with a mental illness not wanting to talk about it.

    I post this for people in the cycle and although I can't give a cure as after 25 odd years I don't think there is one . After doctors medication and psychotherapists amongst other things There is a life to be had though through expressing your feelings and talking about how you feel . Family close friends is the first go to for just for a Hart to hart and a release of the frustration and dread that you feel even over mundane things.

    Break the habit , this is the most important thing for killing the beast that holds you back. Small steps like going for a walk by yourself in the sun , or if invited to a event say yes and commit to it even if for only a short time, and build on those small.steps to bring yourself back into the world. Break out of those habits that that stop you doing what you want and beat the crap out of it as its weaker than you as a whole.

    This is a post for all that suffer in silence and find it difficult to talk about as we have become a silent majority it seems.

    Start here if you want as we are all anons and then fight the fudgeer as you are in control .

    Kill the beast.
     
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    Around the mid to late 90's I used to suffer panic attacks & anxiety. The attacks would just start out of the blue like something would just switch in my head. I would feel the need to have to get away from everyone and find somewhere to sit or lie and try to control my breathing and calm myself down. It would take around 10 to 20 minutes to control an attack and start to calm down but during this time I felt like I was literally dying. Utter panic. I used to have strange morbid thoughts as well around this time, mostly about death.
    I was prescribed pills by my GP that I would take daily and I was referred to see a psychiatrist at a local hospital who after interviewing me simply told me to stop thinking so much and to stop smoking the cannabis that at that time I had been smoking regularly for 10 years. Like I said that was in the late 90's and I haven't had a proper attack in years. Horrible thing to have to through as it's random nature meant that I could never know when it would strike and consequently I felt like I had no control.
     
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    Panic attacks are some of the most miserable experiences that anyone can have.

    Having to plan your route through town so you can get from A to B via all the side roads so you don't have to encounter busy streets where you feel like there's a big torch shining brightly at yourself and everyone is staring at you.

    Having to leave your shopping at the supermarket checkout and walk out as you feel like you're going to collapse and pass out as your heartbeat explodes.

    Sitting in a busy Barber's shop chair, and making the mistake of simply having the idea of a panic attack popping into your head, causing that downward spiral and not being able to get up out of the chair to escape.

    Then feeling like crying because you feel like such a failure and freak of nature for not even being able to carry out the simplest of tasks which most other people appear to take in their stride......
     
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    I sometimes wake up having them, nothing too debilitating (apart from if is at a real low) but strange as I've never had one in the day or outside my bed. I think they stem from a history of sleep problems such as apnea and night terrors and sleep walking. Apnea is horrible when you wake up gasping for breath so it is probably a legacy of that.
     
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    I've suffered on and off with panic attacks since my (now-ex) wife and I separated in 2007.

    I think it was easier for me to cope with because there as an identifiable "trigger". As we resolved our domestic situation and subsequent divorce I learned to cope, to some extent. I consider myself very fortunate not to need medication, so in my case it was fairly "mild", I guess - although there were times when I didn't feel like that.

    Now, 7 years on, I still dislike walking through town if there's big crowds (Christmas shopping is a real struggle for me), but I don't have a problem going to a big concert or, say, rugby international with 70,000+ people. I can't explain that conundrum.

    What I do think is that this kind of issue is way more common than most of us realise.
     
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    I suffer from them from time to time. nasty thing to have. i think its good you have brought them up. people find mental things hard to talk about. if you have a broken leg it's plain to see, but say you panic in the supermarket to someone and they look at you as if you've two heads.
    the more it's exposed and talked about the better.
    you may want to try this Moodscope - Lift your mood with a little help from your friends
    can be good for anyone really
     
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    Thanks to all for the posts as I wasn't sure if people would respond considering it's almost a taboo subject even today. It's clear that the frustration stems of not knowing why this is happening to you and with that how to cope with it. I was also told I think to much and as such fall into the " what if " trap and we avoid the situations that can start an attack . This is our safe route through life avoiding anything that could lead to an attack . So as my first post it's breaking these habits and returning to the world with small steps helped with those close to you. There is not a quick fix cure and the steps are hard and bloody scary but a life can be had and enjoyed again.

    Kill the beast inside that holds you back.
     
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    I have had depression and associated panic attacks for about 20 years on and off. The panic side has been worse in the last eight or so though, since my brother died and my dad was diagnosed with cancer.

    I've even ended up on an ECG machine on two occasions as I thought I was having a heart attack. People don't realise just how scary panic attacks can be.

    I have had a variety of medications, from prozac, to citalopram, and now to venlafaxine.

    The venlafaxine is doing the trick at present and making a massive difference. I feel like my old self again for the first time in quite a while. I've also signed up for some counselling.

    I've got a variety of family and work based issue to work through, but feel like I will get through it now!

    One thing that has been very helpful is a wife and friends who will not take no for an answer when it comes to socialising, and who understand when I am quiet and withdrawn.
     
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    I remember when I was around 19 - 20ish I used to wake up with the sudden dread, palpitations and this weird feeling in my left arm. Used to always think that I was having a heart attack or dying. For years this happened and I never understood what caused it and didn't want to go to the doctor as I thought that it was all in my head. It really started to affect me and I had a few dark months. I even stopped drinking coffee as I thought the caffeine was to blame. To this day I don't drink as much as I used too.

    It was about 3 or 4 years ago I actually got to the root of the problem. I had the usual butterflies sensation and went on line and discovered the "flight or fight" response in Google. I read about anxiety attacks and noticed that I ticked pretty everyone of the signs and symptoms.

    I made an appointment with the doctor and he said that my father suffered badly from anxiety problems. He said that this was not hereditary but if you where to grow up in an environment with something like this then you will pick up some of the traits. I'm not sure how accurate that is.

    To this day I still suffer from anxiety attacks and I can always sense when I'm about to have one. Now that I know what to look out for the attacks are not has bad as they use to be. I have been offered medication but would hate to go down that road.

    I found mediation to work well for me when I get a really bad one. I could never work out why I had them. I was in a stable job, in a great relationship, had an active social life. Still have all this. I could never find out what the underlying issue was and never have.

    The Mrs always thinks I am blowing things like this out off proportion and too be honest I don't blame her. But those who do not suffer from this will never really know what it is like. Its OK trying to explain it but that is nowhere near as how bad it actually is.

    I said to her once that I wish you could experience one of my worst attacks just to know what it is like and then try to imagine spending a decade of your life feeling like that on and off without knowing why.

    I am never one to shy away from my anxiety problems and if anyone asks about it I am always up front as I can be.

    No point suffering in silence. I'm under no illusion that I will be "cured" of this one day and have come to terms that I will have this to the end but hell will freeze over before I let this control my life or affect it any more than it did all them years ago. Life is too short to be worrying about nothing.
     
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    Not me personally but my dad. He has suffered with anxiety and clinical depression for a long time, culminating in a full blown nervous breakdown around 15 years ago. He'll be on medication for the rest of his life and has been for years. He does ok around family and small groups but can't stand being in noisy places with lots of people, even kids parties and such are no-go for anything more than a short time.

    It's an awful thing to deal with, and on top of that he has crippling back trouble and osteoarthritis in his hands and shoulders. He's only 59 as well.

    Personally I used to have incidents in old jobs - I'd just get panicky because I couldn't stand the jobs, walk out and never go back. I literally couldn't bear to spend another minute there.

    I did some painting and decorating for a while that I didn't mind, but other than that one job I didn't stay in any job for longer than 6 days until I started working as a postie and immediately loved it. Even now the thought of doing something else terrifies me.
     
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    I dont tend to get severe panic attacks as described above but I have suffered with anxiety issues for years. Sometimes its caused by specific situations , sometimes just a general feeling of un-ease. Its not very nice to deal with and can also be confusing for the people around you. Its better now I have got kids

    Funny thing is if anything serious ever happens I am as cool as a cucumber.
     
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    Yep was a shy kid but in my teens I found it hard to get out of the door with anxiety. Dread, palpitations, lack of self esteem. All that. Just wanted to be like everyone else (or how they appeared) and talk to girls, be popular, be friendly. I'd consider those teenage years as 'lost' years now. Years later only by controlling and disciplining the mind have I been able to control the anxiety, though sometimes it rears it's ugly head unbidden. I feel sorry for anyone else who has it as it is a major handicap in your life, seeing as it can stop you from fully achieving your goals.
     
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    I'm no expert but I think it could be a factor. my dad is very shy and my mum would panic over silly things. I would say I picked it up subconsciously
     
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    Sounds like you may have experienced the same as me, they are called night terrors if it is. I have since had this feat of waking up with palpitations but that isn't the same thing. In night terrors you are in many respects still asleep but conscious, I have even hallucinated and can move around but you are still in soon dream made and can't really think straight, it is similar to a terrifying sleep walk.

    At their worst they can be terrifying, I would literally describe the fear like someone holding a gun to your head and waiting to be blown away, that intense.

    My friend told me he had the same but he could be a bit of a hypochondriac so I didn't really belive it was the same thing till it described it to me as 'counting to the devil' and as son as he said that I realised he had the same thing and it feels like you're waiting for something, you can't stay still and you've got to constantly keep count of something you can't really define.

    I remember trying to hold my alarm clock under the pillow and was just squwering waiting for it to explode.

    I d these for a period between the ages of about 19 and 25 every few months, sometimes I'd go through periods of them. Thing is you build up this pattern in your head and it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy, at one point I became scared to sleep and stayed up there days straight trying to keep occupied playing football manager, it became a vicious circle because the more exhausted I got the worst I knew it would get and eventually I almost became in that state awake.

    These days I still occasionally get the fear in the night when you think you're going to have a heart attack but it is nothing like the night terrors which are just another level all together.
     
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    Just been chatting to my girlfriend about this thread (she's had her share of panic attacks and still gets occasional bouts of depression) and she reminded me of an incident that some of you will identify with and will, hopefully, make some of you laugh a bit....

    I was walking along the main pedestrianised shopping street in the city one saturday and it was really busy. It was one of those times when you feel you're the only person going in the one direction and everyone is coming towards you. I could feel an attack coming on and out of desperation I quickly nipped into a phone box, shut the door and rang my GF - on my MOBILE!!! I stood there for a few minutes getting my head together when a lady appeared alongside, clearly waiting to use the phone. I had to pick up the receiver and pretend to be on the phone for the next 10 minutes or so until I calmed down enough to come out and carry on. I felt really guilty, and I'm sure she was very suspicious...
    :);):oops:
     
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    My ex girlfriend had panic attacks and anxiety attacks all the time :( started in her mid texans as she was abused by her father and she never reconciled to this.

    I met her about 4 years ago (she was in her late 30's) and it was always an unresolved issue for her, then a few month ago she got diagnosed with bipolar. We split up as her emotional status just wasn't healthy to our relationship - great girl but with me having 3 kids I just couldn't cope with the emotional roller coaster
     
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    Bob I can totally identify with that, though I felt sorry for you rather than found it funny lol. :(

    I've handled similar situations by going into the nearest random shop just to get away - normally the sort of shop I wouldn't ever venture into! Then I swear the staff must be thinking I'm on the rob as I can't even convincingly pretend I'm interested in their goods.

    Indoor shopping centres I find to be probably the worst environments - I can't understand how people visit Bluewater or Lakeside out of pleasure. Just the thought of it....

    Strangely though, I don't suffer in American malls. Whether it's because the ones I visit are huge and seldom crowded I'm not sure? :confused:
     
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