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Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by Dominic, Apr 22, 2002.

  1. Dominic

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    Just bought a panny this weekend :D went to system sound and viewed both the Sony VPL HS1 and the PTAE100.
    First impresssion of the sony was that it looked more like a convector heater and less like a home cinema product. that aside the picture didnt seem a patch on the panny. The viewing wasnt in total darkness but for me the panny was the winner. Reasons for:
    1) the wife liked it
    2) its picture was superior- alot more cinema like
    3) the price
    4) the looks

    also the fan noise seemed a little high on the sony. having seen a few threads on here im sure many will have their own ideas about these 2 pj.

    im very happy with it. need to get a screen now, currently project onto a dulux jasmine white wall ( about 6ft) it works but a screen is next on the shopping list.
    anyone know where to get ceiling brakets ?:D
     
  2. Bert Coules

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    Dominic, what sort of screen are you going for? And what sort of brackets do you need? Have you tried Screwfix at http://www.screwfix.com ? They're very good for that sort of thing.

    You can add me to the list of new and satisfied owners. I'm currently projecting onto the grey side of a sheet of plasterboard, propped up on hastily cobbled-together feet, and apart from the component connection from my DVD player everything else is composite video - but I'm hugely impressed. It really is a totally different experience.

    Incidentally, I'm sure I read in another thread about a forthcoming device to connect the RGB-out of a Sky Digibox to an RGB signal that the AE100 can handle. I can't now find the reference; can anyone help me out?

    Now I have to finalise details for the proper screen. I'd like a permanently wall-mounted one (the ideal position is right across a window, but who needs a window? I have others.) Then there's the projector mounting. I'd like to arrange some sort of retractable ceiling-mount to get the unit up and out of the way when it wasn't actually in use, but I'm not sure if that's actually practical. I must think about it...

    Bert
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    I've just mounted mine using one of these.

    http://www.shaunryan.freeserve.co.uk/smithbrothers/speaker_brackets.htm

    i ordered the ball jointed ones,
    should in theory give the ability to angle the projector exactly right, and when used with a 9mm bit of mdf, seems sufficiently solid.

    it does seem a bit stiff though, but having previously had a go with a homemade wood mount, you soon realise being a couple of mills out at the projector equates to a really lopsided picture!
     
  4. Dominic

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    Bert Coules

    I need a ceiling mounted screen that i can pull down over the front of my existing TV. It needs to be around 6ft wide. Is it best to go for a light grey rather than white ?

    with regard to the bracket i was under the impression panasonic do a bracket designed specificly for the job. If not the one listed by Bonsey looks ok, but i assume it needs the DIY MDF adaptor to fix it to the bottom of the pj ?
     
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    Hi Dominic,

    There's been a lot of chat here about the relative merits of grey and white screens. Try a search for Icestorm (that's a Dulux grey paint which many have used) and see what you come up with - much of it will be relevant to roller-blind screens as well.

    Panason do make a ceiling bracket for the AE100, but I believe it's pretty expensive - hence the interest in alternatives.

    Bert
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  6. General Skanky

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    Glad you like your new toy Dominic.
    It's great helping other people part with their cash!:D
     
  7. Dominic

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    thanks for that General...

    parting with the cash was the easy bit compared to rebuilding TV cabinet / stand and deciding where and how to mount the new toy..

    Worth every penny... somehow the sound is louder... its all in the mind... but what the hell..

    what screen / fixing arrangement do you use... i assume ceiling mount ?
     
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    Click on My Photos link to see al my set up. Also check out TimH's photos for other ideas. And finally, Retronana is doing a complete room fit out when he gets the chance with his AE100.
     
  9. Dominic

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    cheers... very useful, i like the shelf idea, only problem is if i put mine on the back wall i would end up with a huge picture.. as my back wall is about 4m from the screen position, so ill have to go for the ceiling mount option.

    maybe when i get mine done i will post some piccy's on a site.. always good to get hints from others with simular problems.
     
  10. Bert Coules

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    General, how close to the wall is the back of your projector? Have you had any problems with overheating?

    Bert
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    The projector is about 3 1/2" from the back wall.
    No heat problems at all.
    The paint hasn't even noticed it.
    Any heat there is dissapates quite easily.

    I've kept my hand there for a while and it's not a problem.
    As the heat can escape upwards quite easily, no worries.
    I did at one time consider a wedge of some kind to spread the backdraft, but it's just not needed.

    Really trial and error. I could only see a problem if the unit was a sealed box that trapped heat.
     
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    Try www.unicol.com for a ceiling mount - they should have made one for the Panasonic AE100 by now. Mine was £175 for the Gyrolock and adapter for my Sony VW11, cheaper and sturdier than the Sony one.

    Just checked and they do list the Panasonic AE100 : PANASONIC PT AE 100E GAP 0234. It's £149.60 +VAT and can be ceiling or wall mounted.

    I use wall brackets to mount my screen as the joists are in the wrong position. The Da-Lite screen hangs from the brackets using it's own loops. Throw distance is about 12 feet.
     
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    Bonesy - I assume the bracket was the SPSG 3B? Also assume that you only used one of the pair?
    Does the turnscrew thing tighten the ball socket?
     
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    General, thanks for the reply. I was actually thinking about the projector overheating, not the wall: I mocked up a housing for mine (open front and back) and the "temp" light came on after only a few minutes; I suspect that I had the side air-inlet too close to the wall of the housing. Your experience suggests that the air outlet at least can be near a surface, which is useful.

    I'm trying now to come up with a housing that conceals the unit, masks off the light from the back and allows maximum airflow.

    Bert
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    RichardH,
    Yep, that's the one.
    Yes the turnscrew thing locks the bolt into place, and it seems very rigid.
    The only problem with it is the bit below the ball joint is intended to swivel round a little, so there is a little 'play' in it. but it does do what I wanted, and with a bit of time spent getting the angle right I'm sure it'll be fine (I don't have my screen yet).

    If you have a panny ae100, you need four 4mm (thanks timH) screws and bolts, about 20mm long, and secure it to a 9mm mdf cut to size. I then found two 6mm screws and bolts (from B&Q, 79p each) to secure it to the bracket, and 4 screws into ceiling joists. cheaper than unicol, that's for sure.

    If you want to get one, ring the people, they are very helpful, and ship almost immediately. (although UPS proved to be absolutely useless to deal with).
     
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    Bert

    when you suss it, please let me know. I sit 7m away from the wal, with the projector 3.5m away from the wall. and the light coming from the fan hole is the most noticeable thing, which I'd love to hide somehow.
     
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    Bonesy

    Have you not thought about fitting your AE100 into a coffee table, it has been done many times.

    Heres my mount.
     

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    Don't rub it in;)

    Actualy... I think waiting is going to do me a favour, coz at the current rate of progress,I should have saved up enough cash for:

    Blu-Ray player
    HD Free to air set top box
    Playstation 3
    Buffy box set 15
    Star Wars Episode III DVD
    G3 Mobile(Not bloody likely !)

    Etc.etc
     
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    Yes but the Panasonic AE300 will be out by then with 1000 contrast ration ;)
     
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    Bonesy,
    This looks like a great (cheap) alternative to the unicool.
    It looks like the unit can be split in two. (where the ball joint is)
    Is this correct? Otherwise it would be a bit of a pain to install and uninstall the projecgtor.

    Thanks Azzo.
     
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    Azzo, No, I can't see a way of taking the projector off easily, other than undoing the two nuts used to secure the mdf to it. I manage to do that 2-handed by myself, so wasn't a concern for me. btw, the price on the site is before vat, as they don't usually sell direct.
     
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    I spoke to my old Grandad, and he doesn't remember any "Contrast Ration's"

    But he did mention that the AE-100 were as common as "Hobby Horse ****"

    ;) ;) ;)

    All joke's aside...it could still be a long wait:confused:
     
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    Whoops! :eek:

    I see from your post you still have the Lecson dvd-1000 :confused:
     
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    Well its paid for...and it outputs Component in an Ok sort of way.
    It stays untill I can get somthing better for the same price;)
     

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