Last night I watched a LG 55UK6500 IPS TV at my son and laws house in a dimly lit room. The TV looked very good.Follow up from above.
My wife and I were talking and I think we are at the point where after we get the new screen...we may sell it as a perfect OLED TV and use the money for an LED. I mean....honestly my old eyes probably won't notice too much. My parents live in an apartment on my property and they just got a 55 inch LG LED for $450 and the picture looks damn good for normal viewing. What do you all think?
Reliability, viewing angle, and cost are the main differences between most TVs. Especially if you don’t game or watch your TV in a dark room. If you don’t study the differences between TVs you would have a hard time noticing the differences between a mid range, low cost TV, and the high end (expensive) TVs.Follow up from above.
My wife and I were talking and I think we are at the point where after we get the new screen...we may sell it as a perfect OLED TV and use the money for an LED. I mean....honestly my old eyes probably won't notice too much. My parents live in an apartment on my property and they just got a 55 inch LG LED for $450 and the picture looks damn good for normal viewing. What do you all think?
Getting a little out of control. We get your point.BTW guys....look at my burn in on post #86. Do you notice that the mute symbol is burned in? Can you believe it? I mean....i may hit the mute button once a week when the phone rings or for some other reason but definitely not a lot. That tells me that these screens will burn in with very little time of a static image. Not an extended amount of time like we are told.
Its hard to explain burn from something so short term as the mute symbol , my Oled has been exposed to this morning show for around 2 to 3 hours every morning and has over 8000hrs on it and no burn in . Not saying it wont happen .BTW guys....look at my burn in on post #86. Do you notice that the mute symbol is burned in? Can you believe it? I mean....i may hit the mute button once a week when the phone rings or for some other reason but definitely not a lot. That tells me that these screens will burn in with very little time of a static image. Not an extended amount of time like we are told.
Pot, kettle....Getting a little out of control. We get your point.
Reliability, viewing angle, and cost are the main differences between most TVs. Especially if you don’t game or watch your TV in a dark room. If you don’t study the differences between TVs you would have a hard time noticing the differences between a mid range, low cost TV, and the high end (expensive) TVs.
Rtings.com in their Best TV reviews says, “Be careful not to get to caught up in the details. While no TV is perfect, most TVs are great enough to please almost everyone, and the differences are often not noticeable unless you really look for them.”
Sometimes talking about the differences in TVs brings more pleasure than the actual differences in the TVs performance.
How? It's a valid point that dispels the notion that burn in only happens if you have a static image displayed for multiple hours at a time....day after day. Apparently it happens from the display navigating LG's built in controls. IMO....this show just how susceptible these displays are to experiencing burn in.Getting a little out of control. We get your point.
Reliability is questionable with certain brands. If you buy a LED Hisense or LED Vizio TV you are twice as likely to experience problems in the first 5 years than if you buy a OLED Sony TV.I'd say aside from the budget supermarket brands, reliability is very similar. Atleast it's not disperate enough to be a key driver in ones decision. Everything breaks, but the likelihood is you will get several years of good use out of most decent brands. The manufacturer would just be digging themselves into a big hole otherwise, dealing with consumer complaints and repairs. Especially with something as large as a TV, which is difficult to ship back and forth.
Personally I'd say a step up in FOV is the biggest improvement in most cases. Everyone will notice that. Despite most of our critical/important viewing being in the evening with the lights out, I'd say the big step up in FOV (we went 65" from 50") delivered the greatest improvement to the viewing experience.
How? It's a valid point that dispels the notion that burn in only happens if you have a static image displayed for multiple hours at a time....day after day. Apparently it happens from the display navigating LG's built in controls. IMO....this show just how susceptible these displays are to experiencing burn in.
Interesting test video:
Guys on here that have has burn-in issues, do you leave on standby as suggested towards the end of this video?
Thought I would post an update. LG called me and immediately said they would cover my repairs, free of charge even though they say my burn in is not covered under warranty. I didn't have to argue or push at all. They simply gave it up right off.
First, I am happy with their customer service and their concession to repair my 2 year old, out of warranty screen. But...that says to me that they must know this burn in is a problem. I hope they treat everyone the same.
Second...and last, I am very worried about this simply happening again in the next two years. Let me ask....will the repair include some sort of software upgrade that will prevent this from happening again? If not, I am tempted to sell it as soon as it is fixed and simply but an LED again. I know the picture may not be as good but to my eyes and viewing room....it will still be damn good.
I wouldn't take these tests as gospel either but at least they state what their picture settings are and the type of content viewed which can be helpful to others who are trying to prevent burn in .I’m also not going to put much stock in those performing burn in tests who have a reason to keep on a manufacturers good side either. The public are doing the testing and the results are on here and YouTube for everyone to see.
You were lucky, LG flatly refused to replace my panel, took on average 5-10 days to respond to emails and never rang me back when I first contacted them and was told they’d call me back the next day, I rang back the next day close to closing time for their customer service department and was again told they’d call me the next day - which also never happened. They didn’t respond to my questions regarding why it mostly seems to be the Red pixels that wear out first if this is a User causes issue.
Luckily RS have offered to help, but LG are an absolute disgrace in the way they’ve handled my issues - and it seems others too.
Those of you without issues on your OLED and Implying this has been caused by ourselves, there are now enough examples to say that isn’t the case.
My burn in started to appear about 18 months after purchase. So the newer models may be affected but its to early to tell at the minute.
I wouldn't take these tests as gospel either but at least they state what their picture settings are and the type of content viewed which can be helpful to others who are trying to prevent burn in .
I'm not offering a scientific study result....and BTW....neither are you. I am on a public forum and I am offering others my opinion based on real world experience and reading others experience. I am doing my best to warn others of my experience and IMO....let others know they may be in danger too.It shows how susceptible your particular display was. Without further statistically significant sample data it doesn't show anything else.
You're drawing conclusions on the basis of meagre evidence. I once had a PSU failure on a TV in the first day, I didn't conclude from that every other TV of the same model was susceptible to PSU failure within a day.
I'm not offering a scientific study result....and BTW....neither are you. I am on a public forum and I am offering others my opinion based on real world experience and reading others experience. I am doing my best to warn others of my experience and IMO....let others know they may be in danger too.
But since you brought it up...tell how my screen would be a "one off" or a rare inferior product when all of the screens are built from the same manufacturing process to the same specs by robots? Are saying my substrate is inferior? My organic film wasn't sprayed on correctly? The evaporation process was faulty? Or anything else? IMO....those issues would have been noticeable right away. Not after two years. The more logical conclusion is that all of these screens are just as susceptible as another.
Also.....your comparison of an OLED screen to a faulty power supply is not a good example because power supplies have hardwired circuits that could fail when others may not. Cold soldered joints, etc....