Hi all, CPC/Farnell do some cheap metal speaker brackets, and as my plastic Argos one is a little wobbly when you touch the pj, I thought I'd try one of the metal ones. They're only £12.23 a pair, and a bargain considering what you get for the money, and how much 'proper' projector mounts cost these days. You can even use it to mount to a back wall if you like. I'm quite pleased with it, though I did modify mine a bit to put the pj closer to the ceiling, but now it's rock solid. Straight out of the box, it is approx 10 inches in height, but is adjustable to about 14.5". If you want it shorter, you'll have to cut the ceiling tube, then drill a 6.5mm hole through it, and use a needle file to make the hole square for the locking bolt to work correctly. Then cut down the adjusting rod to match. It's pretty easy if you can use a drill, hack saw and a needle file. That will bring it down to approx 4.5 ins. I drilled another pivot hole an inch below, so the bracket is now a little under 3.5ins. The only drawback is it is missing one plane of adjustment (like the Argos one). In this case, you can have up/down tilt of the pj, or left/right tilt. The left right is probably better so that you can get the image perfectly straight with the top and bottom of the screen. I used a couple of packing washers betwen the ceiling and bracket on one side to get it level. It's very similar to the bracket I made for my old Davis pj, where I used a modified satelite dish bracket. This is much better though. There are a couple of other brackets over at CPCs that may be equaly suitable, so it might be worth having a look. There are some pics here: http://firstname.lastname@example.org/ht1000.html The MK2 is below the Argos MK1, along with it attached to an Optoma H77. HTH Gary.