Veni Vidi Vici
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Until we have the strength to clearly identify the problem, factually and without fear of upsetting the pc brigade, we will never find a solution.
A good start would be to learn to identify the cause correctly.
It is a fundamentalist Islamic idiology with close ties to Saudi style Wahabism that's at fault. That's not racist, it's fact.
Our mainstream media are so delicate to using the word "islam" in relation to anything bad that they use terms such as "so called" before identifying them. So-called Islamic state?.
Did you hear anyone call the Germans in ww2 the "so-called nazis"?
Until we have the strength to clearly identify the problem, factually and without fear of upsetting the pc brigade, we will never find a solution.
A good start would be to learn to identify the cause correctly.
Unfortunately it is difficult to see a way to win against this. With the war on the ground against IS being won, they just revert back to individual terror attacks.
Cheers,
Nigel
Ok, now you believe you've identified the cause as Wahhabism, whats the solution? (though gbjbaanb disagrees with you and says it's the PC Brigade)
A bit like the tobacco industry refusing to stop advertising their products!
I think a better analogy would be that its like saying we should ban shellfish because 0.01% of people get ill from eating them or the correct solution to a splinter in your finger is to amputate your arm just in case it gets infected, you get sepsis and die.
Because an incomplete view is given and therefore it looks like you are targetting a religion and not an issue. Take FGM, in the Jewish community in Ethiopia its common, similarly in some Christian communities in Kenya, Tanzania etc they also practice it. Similarly its known to be common in some forms of animism. So to say Muslim FGM is bad but totally ignore all the others is discriminating against a single religion hence the "ism" label.I don't know where you got that lot from. I'm saying that criticising Muslims that need criticising is important, and the PC brigade are preventing that. We should be concerned about FGM, imposed dress codes and other forms of female oppression, etc etc. But when you do criticise these things, you're called out as racist and then others pop up to claim immigration is such a wonderful thing
Jeez seriously? In 25 years time? Where have you been living and holidaying? Please don't tell me you live in Europe?Who's to say in 25 years time that we wont think a topless woman walking into a beach bar is any different from a topless guy doing the same right now? They will look back at you and your oppressive views on women and how you so objectified them that you forced them to cover their bodies when you can walk around in just your speedos
Oh damn, I looked that up...I wished I didn'tI was thinking about getting my sphincter removed as I'm getting sick to death of wiping it.
Because an incomplete view is given and therefore it looks like you are targetting a religion and not an issue.
You're comparing male circumcision with FGM?
I agree with you that they are both wrong but surely the two can't be compared.
I didn't say on a beach, I said in a beach bar - ie a beach side restaurant where people here eat their fish and chips or in Spain have their paella etc.... I don't know where you go (though I'd like to) but beyond the occasional flasher I've never seen any bar where the ladies are all sitting around with their families etc with their tits out but I do see lots of guys with theirs out.Jeez seriously? In 25 years time? Where have you been living and holidaying? Please don't tell me you live in Europe?
Damn I've been having mix locker rooms at school since I was a little boy and all during my teens. You can see tits everywhere on the beach....In 25 years time? Pah....
Type 1a FGM is removal of the cliteral hood only. Circumcision is removal of the foreskin. Both are the identical piece of skin and develop from the same structure.You're comparing male circumcision with FGM?
I agree with you that they are both wrong but surely the two can't be compared.
Yes I read beach bar.I didn't say on a beach, I said in a beach bar - ie a beach side restaurant where people here eat their fish and chips or in Spain have their paella etc.... I don't know where you go (though I'd like to) but beyond the occasional flasher I've never seen any bar where the ladies are all sitting around with their families etc with their tits out but I do see lots of guys with theirs out.
Type 1a FGM is removal of the cliteral hood only. Circumcision is removal of the foreskin. Both are the identical piece of skin and develop from the same structure.
Clearly FGM can go much further but then so can male, if you look at the Unambal Aborigine which split the whole penis.
The two at their lightest forms are directly comparable and in my opinion, which I see you already noted, are wrong in anything but a medical requirement on a case by case by a qualified doctor etc.