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Annual doling out of Gongs

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by la gran siete, Jun 11, 2005.

  1. la gran siete

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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Once again we have this charade ludicrous anachronistic awards given to the ill deserved ( "how much shall I give to Tony this time Guv?")

    Does anyone know someone who deserves a gong? I reckon I'll put myself forward for one coz as far as I'm concerned I have the right credentials :
    Was not expelled from school.
    Was not expelled from college
    Never been sacked
    Done my job reasonably well for the last 30 years.
    Never broke the law other than the odd parking offence of course and maybe speeding
    Never been thrown out of a pub
    Drink real ale
    Never been thrown out of a rugby club

    In fact Ive kept my nose pretty clean.So how about it Tone? gongy wongy for me ?

    Sir La Gran Siete CBE


    Oh I forgot I havent made a considerable political donnation have I? Havent grovelled enough either.
     
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    a report in the papers last week showed that over 80% of people who had donated more than £500,000 to teh Labour party , had recieved a knighthood or above.........no doubt the others already had one.

    The other telling evidence was that the timing of the award was nearly always after the donation, with few donations continuing afterwards - New Labour really are selling these gongs to their friends.

    The one however, which annoys me the most was Kinnock, he accepted a Peerage even though he has continually argued against them.
     
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    Kinnock is a complete hypocrit isn't he! :rolleyes:
     
  4. la gran siete

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    I'm sure the Tories have doled out their fair share.If it was up to me I'd declare all titles null and void . As for OBE MBE and CBEs well they are complete joke. Commander of the British Empire ??? Whats that a couple of rocks here and there?Is it any wonder the Aussies and Kiwis take such pleasure in thrashing our sporting icons? Some humility is required me thinks and we can start by ditcjhing any notions of empire and notions of class . Kinnock is a hypocrite!
     
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    I wonder what the C stands for :rotfl:

    I think that most of us think that these awards don't belong in the 21st century but they seem to be important to all of the political parties so will be carried on regardless.

    In recent memory I think that Harold Wilson was the worst offender. John Major made some amendments to the system by asking for nominations from the public for the unsung heros who had performed civil or charitable works beyond the call of duty and in my opinion this is the only area that should be retained as I feel that only those who have done good works with no expectation of reward are deserving of being honoured.
     
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    in another thread recently I mentioned to you LGS that the Labour was as full of 'cronyism' as the tories ever were (this was after you had apparently been "laughing like a drain" about their re-election)....your carefully thought out argument agaisnt this accusation was....."errrrr no". Have you now changed your mind?
     
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    But you double, doubled posted last week and that wipes out all the bad you never did. :D
     
  8. la gran siete

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    It was only out of intense frustration because the pages were moving very slowly. I felt like throwing thew pc out of thew window :devil:
     
  9. la gran siete

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    The term cronyism is one that the right wing press conveniently uses to bash the government with whilst at the same not mentioning the fact that HOL was filled with Tory cronies who were there in perpetuity. The appointees ( or cronies as you call them) are there to balance the house and whilst I would prefer an elected second chamber and called it a Senate, we are stuck with the HOL in its present format.
     
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    surely not a four letter word :eek: :eek:
     
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    I just use it in the more general sense of doing your mates favours in response to other favours they may do you.....my main point is that Tony is about right wing as they come. Now Tony Benn, i don't agree with too much of what he says but I really respect the man for sticking to his socialist principals and his genuine belief in his politics. You won't see somebody like him compromising his beliefs to win votes. He wants to win because he is convinced he is right. Tony wants to win because winning is what matters to him.
     
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    Most people respect Benn because he was always sincere in his beliefs. It was he who first critcised Blair for turning the HOL from a chamber based on privilidge to one based on patronage. H e like me also believes in an elected second chamber.
    You are right he never did compromise his beliefs . Unfortunately other than his seat in the house he never won anything and only held fairly junior positions in government.

    He is an absolute gentleman who never let his politics become personal who has the respect of both sides of the house who is a great speaker and knows his history inside out.
     
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    you're right he didn't win anything but he didn't jump on any band wagons to change that and because of that he never lost anything..certainly not his credibility
     
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    Agreeed which is why he has the respect of so many . I remember talking to a Tory client of mine who used to go and watch him speak. Alwasy found him very compelling. He used to get on quite well with Enoch Powell and from what I gather does the same with Norman Tebbit
     
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    Arise Sir... Hugh Orde. The man who has done nothing for anybody (except the DUPers) since becoming the NI Chief Constable. Like all the other NI Chief Constables before him, he gets a Knighthood for nothing. Seems it goes with the job.

    And <boke> Terry Wiggon gets an Honorary Knighthood. He should have been gutted instead.
     
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    And what about SIR Mick ,Paul ,Elton and Alan??What did they do apart from their job?
     
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    One if not the most honest of politicians and renounce a title to become an MP.
     
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    Funny isn't it the politicians who get most respect from all people are ones like Tony Benn who stick to their beliefs.

    The Norman Tebbit friendship things sounds typical, don't let politics get in the way
     
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    Yes he never let politics become personal
     
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    I'm not against an awards system of some kind .An Order of Merit as most countries seem to have seems quite appropriate. I just dont understand why we have a load of Sirs and Lords crawling around expecting everyone to ingratiate themselves to them. I mean it just so sodding out of date isnt it?We need to be dragged screaming into the 21st century we do.Declare ALL titles that convey social status( not profession obviously) null and void and forget the Empire . Our place is in the heart of Europe where we have a very important role to play.Half those goons with titles have no class whatsover anyway - they are Arrivistes! Take Alan Sugar for eg. If ever there was a barrow boy made good its him, right?He has NEVER made anything thats any good- crappy pcs even worse music centres,SKY boxes I would avoid likre the plague and yet there he is crawling around the place EXPECTING the great unwashed to address him as Sir Alan. The man is an arrogant toe rag with absolutely no class whatsover because if he did he wouldnt behave in the way he does.Now Bobby Moore he had class, Bobby Charlton has it too, Stanley Mathews had it. This is because their manners were impeccable thats why.Gordon "i'm a sodding bully " Ramsay, despite his elocution classes, has no class.He may be able to cook and I'm absolutely certain he is lining up for a gong but class he hasnt.

    No, the single most disapponting aspect of TBs administration is his osession with multimillionaires ,celebrities and his apparent reluctance to get rid of this dreadful awards system.
     
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    In my experience it is people like Sir Amstrad that are much worse than those (in terms of wanting to be shown respect) that inherit titles (i have met a few). I am not a big fan of royalty by any means but as an example I do know a chap through business who is a viscount, but he doesn't use the title, and insists that you call him by his first name and he is as down to earth as you could wish for!
     
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    I agree ! Our local Toff is very unpretentious so much so you'd never know he was one . Always very well mannered too.Its the way people are brought up that counts not their background.
     
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    Donated large amounts of money to New Labour perhaps?
     
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    Most likely yes and thats a good argument for funding the three parties from the public purse.Either that or we'd better keep quiet about cronyism.
     
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    Paul mcC is a bot of an odd one . A staunch supporter oif the Labour party who sent all his kids to state schools.Stella , though ,is known a s a grade A snob who resents the fact she went to such a school and who has enrolled her bairn to go to one of the top private schools in London.
    I know someone, who works at a Cartier shop, and who had the misfortune of serving her and reckoned she was down right snotty.

    Gossip over :devil: :devil:
     
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    :mad: :mad: :mad:

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