mjn
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To be fair i also have range anxiety sometimes…….only 230 miles to a tank.I gave you two, what more do you want?
Yes, my bad, sorry about that
Short summary: It was a bit stressful, but we made it
To be fair i also have range anxiety sometimes…….only 230 miles to a tank.I gave you two, what more do you want?
Yes, my bad, sorry about that
Short summary: It was a bit stressful, but we made it
So long as we can avoid the street in Hackney where a work colleague lives. They have numerous 13A extension leads stretched out from 1st floor windows into the trees on the roadside. They and their neighbours find a parking spot, locate their cable and unravel or extend it to their car. Apparently on a bad day, it starts to resemble those pictures you see of power cables in India, with a total rats nest strung along the trees and kerbside. Not very sustainable!
Norwich City Council itself provides public EV charge points in two locations:
Rose Lane multi-storey car park - 6 charge points, 7kW fast charge (parking fee applies – check website for tariff)
UEA Enterprise Centre car park - 2 charge points, 50kW rapid charge (2 hour maximum stay – no parking fee)
Interestingly, that article is from 2019, but I haven't seen widespread take up as yet. This is not just planning permission, but the cabling and infrastructure to support.In kerb charging as a technology has been around for some time even if it is 7Kw. There are even 100's of test installs in various parts of the country. One of the biggest hurdles is planning permission laws which need to change to speed up rollout.
UK firm launches public EV chargers embedded into kerb | Auto Express
Connected Kerb has teamed up with Southwark Council to deploy the first of its new kerbside charging points in south Londonwww.autoexpress.co.uk
Having a 100A supply is no barrier to having multiple chargepoints, but you probably would need to utilise “smart” units with load management. I’ve got an all-electric house with 100A supply, and when I added a 2nd chargepoint my DNO insisted on mitigations to ensure I could not overload my supply. So the solution they agreed to was for me to use a zappi charger with incoming supply monitoring so that the Zappi could reduce (or even stop) charge current if I exceeded 85A on the incoming supply. My loads are usually very low overnight, so both chargers can run at full output, but should something uneoxoectedly switch on then my Zappi will back off until the load drops again. It makes charging two EVs simultaneously not bother at all.Pretty certain I'm on my last ICE, so in 3 years I will be looking at an EV.
The infrastructure does need to catch up however. We have plenty of off road parking for 2-3 cars at home, but we would only be able to fit 1 charging socket as we have a typical 100A household supply. As we have 2 cars plus 2 daughters with their own, a certain amount of planning will be required to keep everything topped once we all go electric.
In our Lincolnshire market town, there's currently a grand total of 5 public chargers (2 x 7.5KW, 2 x 50KW, 1 Tesla DC), none of which are in convenient locations, being in a retail park car park with just a B&Q or carpet warehouse to wander around and at a small petrol station on the edge of town. We do however have 7 petrol stations with more than 55 pumps between them...
I think this illustrates the scale of the challenge to provide the public charging infrastructure. Allowing for the extended charging time over refuelling, how many public chargers will be required to replace the current petrol stations? My guess would be about 1 charger per 500 cars, but I'm assuming someone's done the detailed maths on this!!
So long as we can avoid the street in Hackney where a work colleague lives. They have numerous 13A extension leads stretched out from 1st floor windows into the trees on the roadside. They and their neighbours find a parking spot, locate their cable and unravel or extend it to their car. Apparently on a bad day, it starts to resemble those pictures you see of power cables in India, with a total rats nest strung along the trees and kerbside. Not very sustainable!
Rugby today, no issues giving the cat a quick Ecotricity 25 min boost :-
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If I’d had a Tesla I may have nearly struggled :-
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Sounds low, thought it was 80a.I believe there wanting a new build to come with a 60amp supply now
EVs certainly won't remain free for very long. As you say, there's a significant tax burden that the government will need to make up. Probably a pay by the mile tax or maybe a parking tax??thats what he said, guy was an electrical engineer, said we'd get to the stage of electricity rationing,
my biggest issue with ev is partly the owners there like ex smokers....
and secondly the country cant support them, theres less than 30,000 charging point in the uk, now say half the population drive ev thats 30million ev. then look at the tax side of things, i pay £300+for my focus st each yr, i also pay for vpower which is £1.41 per litre of which and we can say roughly half of that is tax....so when 30 million people switch to ev and theres no longer any tax coming in, wheres that going to come from? will they have dedicated charging points which are on a tariff? or will they be a new road fund licence just for owning a car, i get people wanting to be green and helping the climate i do, i just dont think battery tech is there yet and a good source for it.
Exactly this ^^^ for me and my kids and I don't mind paying a bit for it if it feels like value for money in the right direction + a bit on top to help out..The evidence about climate change and just how much of a mess we're is not open for debate and we need to make big changes now.
Try a range of <120 miles and long journeys! To be fair when we did about 260 miles in a day, the only issues that we had were we didn't understand how rapid chargers worked and therefore had a little anxiety of the unknown rather than range anxiety specifically.To be fair i also have range anxiety sometimes…….only 230 miles to a tank.