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Analog conversion Pinnacle,Canopus, or DV Camcorder

Discussion in 'Camcorders, Action Cams & Video Editing Forum' started by pekjak, Feb 28, 2003.

  1. pekjak

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    Background:
    I have ~8 years of analog 8mm video to convert ~30 2hr tapes.
    I want to convert to DVD & vhs. I have an analog 8mm camcorder.
    I need to replace one of our PCs that have died prior to
    splurging on this.

    1.2.3,4?
    (1) I've been looking at Pinnacle micro studio 8 or DV500 for a very long time. It never seems to get up on the priority list. And for every glowing review there seems to be a ton of people
    out there that can't get these cards to work well. If i went this
    direction I would have to be careful of my hardware choices &
    when I get around to buying the card during the summer there
    is no guarantee that it will work with my PC I purchased in March.

    (2) I've seen articles that recommend running analog 8mm passing through the DV camcorder or playing 8mm analog in
    Sony 8mm digital cams. Then passing the video to PC via
    firewire. http://www.vcdhelp.com/dvanalog This is appealing as
    it gets me a DV video cam & supposedly does the work of
    a conversion card! Circuit City has DCRTRV350 for $500 US.

    (3) Analog to DV -> firewire box review here Canopus ADVC-100
    $269 US.
    http://www.camuser.co.uk/reviews/VideoEditing/Canopus/CanopusADVC-100.shtml

    (4) When I purchase my PC get a decent video card with
    video capture like ATI all in wonder. $125-$377

    Thanks in advance for opinions and experience comments.
     
  2. sparkybun

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    Hi,

    Look at www.dazzle.com. I've just bought the DVC80 with moviestar5 to convert Hi8 analogue to DVD/VCD.

    Cheers
     
  3. MarkE19

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    If you have a large number of 8mm analogue tapes (and it sounds like you do!) then I would suggest that your best bet would be to go for a Sony Digital8 camcorder.
    This will give:
    a) high quality camcorder for your future use.
    b) playback of all your current 8mm/Hi8 tapes.
    c) a simple way of getting all tapes (current & future) onto a PC
    d) cheaper & more reliable PC upgrade.

    As you have mentioned analogue capture cards do have a lot of compatability issues, can be very expensive and will not be used often once all your old tapes have been captured.

    Mark.
     
  4. sparkybun

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    Hi,

    Still hold with the Dazzle DVC80 at £69 as opposed to the Sony digital camera at >£500-600?? Can also write to DVD with the Moviestar package. Therefore could buy a DVD writer at £200 and it's still cheaper than buying a Digital camcorder.

    Am I missing the point here?

    ???
     
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    I have also be pondering on this.

    I have several video 8 tapes and 1 VHS done with an old camcorder many years ago. I want to convert them to the best quality I can using my Gforce 4 VIVO card. However I hits snags. One of the VHS tapes wants editing via software and also because I want good quality mpeg2 perferable I hit a snag of 4GB file size limit in XP. I was hoping if I could get them up to 4GB I could convert them to mpeg4 DIVX and burn on cdr or dvd-r.

    I cant figure how these software I have can edit very well, I have a variety of ones, wincoder, windvd creator and Pinacle Studio 8.

    I was considering getting a digital camecorder but money is tight at mo, and am very confused as to what to get when I have the dosh.


    I am concerned that the quality of the tapes over time will degrade as one at least has already VHS and teh tapes are of my kids from being babies so you can see how precious they are to my wife and I.
     
  7. nunew33

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    There is no 4Gb file size limit in XP!!!

    This is a limit of earlier versions of windows.
     
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    Well I have come across the problem with 4GB limit before, perhaps you are thinking of NTFS in XP, the limit Iof 4GB is applicable to XP FAT32.

    I just checked and confirm that, that is correct.

    http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/100d2.htm
     
  9. nunew33

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    There in lies the solution!!! Go to NTFS!!!
     
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    I don't want to go to NTFS just to increase file sizes. Besides Fat32 is more suitable for what I need except for large file sizes.
     
  11. nunew33

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    Slenderdeer, out of interest why is Fat32 your preference over ntfs?

    Couldnt you partition?
     
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    I have had problems before with NTFS. I also think it isnt particularly suited to gaming.

    I managed yesterday to get a resonable copy of a video 8 tape using wincoder and then creating a dvd using Ulead Picture show 2. Not bad quality although slighty pixelated.
     
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    Ive given up archiving Video 8s on the PC. Initially because of 4Gb limit on Windows ME, but cose of time and quality (using AIW radeon capture, Ulead MSP). Im now waiting for DVD recorders to be reasonably priced!!!
     
  14. Dubbing Mixer

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    The Canopus converter is a good option. Keep everything in DV on the PC and convert (both ways if required) through the box. It's being used professionally for off-line pictures as a convenient and (relatively) cheap answer.
     

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