Amp to match bdp370 and MS speakers

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  1. rowlers

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    I've got a Sony S370 on its way, and would like a matching AV receiver to go with it. At least black to keep the Mrs Happy!
    Currently have a Marantz SR 5400 and MS Avant 904 5.1 speaker package.
    I'd really like something smaller than the monster that is the is the Marantz!
    It is 160mm high and 420+mm deep. What should I be looking to shortlist.
    Budget is approx £200, last model is fine, don't really need any HDMI, although it would be nice. Deffo don't need any 3d.

    Main uses DVD, (soon Bluray), Sky SD/HD, CDs and MP3s.

    Thanks
     
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    The only real compact options are the Marantz NR1501 (older) and Marantz NR1601 (current). I have no idea if the NR1501 is still in stock though. Your budget is a bit low to be honest.
     
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    Yeh I realise its a low budget, I've seen a few £100-200 priced ones on richer sounds...
    What I don't want is something that is going to sound worse than my Marantz... Its on it last legs, gets really hot, volume knob doesn't work etc... I've seen the 1501, it get good reviews, but just wonder it you're paying for the compact size...
    I can get away with max 160mm height and looking at the Sony's they come in at only 322mm deep a saving of 100mm on my Marantz!
     
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    The MS speakers are tonally bright and better paired with tonally warm natured amps from Marantz, Yamaha and Denon. The Sony is regarded as a little on the bright side, so I'd definitely want to demo before pairing Sony and MS speakers.
     
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  5. rowlers

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    Brill, thanks for that...
    I used to have a stereo Yamaha amp, back in the day and loved it...
     
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    Looking at a local dealer they have the Yamaha 367 for £170. THis looks a steal, anyone have any experience of it?

    (looking for reviews as we speak!)
     
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    The 367 is the entry level Yamaha amp, so don't know how it will compare quality wise with your current amp.

    As you have blueray player, I'd recommend at least the 467 as the 467 decodes HD audio formats; the 367 doesn't. You can still use HD audio from the BR player with the 367, but you'd need to set the BR player to decode the HD audio and send it as LPCM.
     
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    If the player decodes the HD audio do you lose any sound quality? To be honest I doubt if I'd notice if there was a loss!
    I think I might just take the plunge!
    cheers for the advice...
     
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    looking into a bit more, it is a lot more basic than my current Marantz...
    I think I might be best getting the next model up...
    Any other manufacurers to consider?
     
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    The sound quality will be the same. The amp will display PCM when decoded by the player and the actual codec, such as Dolby True HD, if decoded by the amp.

    I always think an amp that decodes is a good idea because not all current BR players decode all the HD formats.

    I think the S370 decodes the HD audio, but it's very sparse on detailed information:

     
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    Yamaha Denon or Marantz are the best match for your speakers. The Denon 1611 or the previously mentioned Marantz 1601.

    Richer sounds were doing the 1601 for £299, but i think they are very low on stock.

    Probably the best bargain around ATM is the Yamaha 667 that has had a discount from £450 to £350 as a promotion for current stocks. Someone posted today on the 667 thread that they got the amp for just over £300 from weymouth HIFI


    http://www.avforums.com/forums/13524101-post388.html

    Or £296 from HIFIX if you're happy with dual tone finish.
     
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    Update, bit the bullet (and ignored all your advice) and bought the Sony STR-DA2400ESB for £250, read loads of reviews and it seems to come out very well (5* What Hifi..)
    I'm also going to buy new front speakers to match (replace my MS Avant 904 Floorstanders).
    So what manufactures go best with the Sony? Slim floorstanders similar to the MS's or Stand mounted, not to fussed. But MUST be in Walnut effect to keep the MRS happy! Again l last years model is fine.
     
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    Look at (listen to) warmer sounding speakers than your present MS speakers for use with the Sony. Speakers by Acoustic Energy, Tannoy, KEF, Wharfdale and Q Acoustics are all a good place to start.
     
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    Not sure if you get these in Walnut but the Wharfedale Moviestar and Achromatic setups are about the cheapest 'tallboy', compact floorstander style speakers I've seen. They're avaible here, whom I believe are the sole UK stockists. Kef and Tannoy do some walnut finishes that might suit. I couldn't get on with the Rev Sigs in my own setup though, so won't recommend them but demo yourself if you can.
     
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    The sub will be fine. The centre could be a problem, not only because there could be a tonal mismatch between the MS and wharfdale centre, but becaue it's hard to find a diamond 9 sereis centre now --- second hand off ebay may be the best option, or hoping the Diamond 10 series centre is a reasonable match to the 9 series. Tonal matching across the front soundstage is important.

    The rears may be OK as an exact tonal match with the fronts isn't required.

    The 904s should be better than the Diamond 9.1s anyway; I'm surprised you went the route you did TBH; the Yamaha 667 is only around £50 more than the Sony 2400ES, equivalent quality wise to it, and you wouldn't have had the cost of changing your speakers.
     
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    The fronts were always going to be changed at some point anyway, as I've been told the do "go" with the rest of the decor!
    This way I get to buy new without guilt/hassle from the Mrs!!
     
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    Thanks; understand now. I think the wharfdale 10.4 are around the same quality as your current MS Avant 904s.
     
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    They are gorgeous! Will look into them!
     

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