Have to say, I would agree with your dad on this.Had this argument many times with my father, a radio and television engineer.
He pooh-poohed the idea of this mystification of electronics.
Claiming it was self deception, wishful thinking.
Deezell, these discussions always break down into two camps. Those whose business was electronics or broadcasting or studio work and those whose hobby is audio... The latter will not be convinced by rational argument or measurements.When I worked for the National broadcaster in Ireland in the 80s, as a young audio engineer, the criteria were noise, frequency response, distortion, and phase. For turntables there was rumble, for transcription deck cartridges, adherence to equalization, stereo seperation and for tape decks, throw in wow and flutter. All measurable before you sent to the speakers, where all the colouration to the final sound appears, all other things being equal. Impedance matching of speakers was desirable, but not critical at audio frequencies, sub microsecond reflections down your £200 speaker cable (or 4 metres of decent mains flex) are simply not audible. I used to read What Hifi back then, and laugh out at the mystical descriptions of transcription deck transducers or cartridges, when the source was a lump of squashed vinyl with the imprint of the master disk on it. Rubbish in, rubbish out.
Hmm, a bit like religious devotees, belief is all the evidence needed, rationality does not exist.Deezell, these discussions always break down into two camps. Those whose business was electronics or broadcasting or studio work and those whose hobby is audio... The latter will not be convinced by rational argument or measurements.
Deezell, these discussions always break down into two camps. Those whose business was electronics or broadcasting or studio work and those whose hobby is audio... The latter will not be convinced by rational argument or measurements.
That sounds quite arrogant, dannielll. Plenty of of laypeople are keen to learn about the specialist science and engineering, and are entirely open to the rationale and evidence. Quiet a proportion of those people are likely to come from other disciplines that have a reasonable understanding of the general scientific method. I would suggest that you're displaying an egocentric outlook that's revealed by your use of mixed tense in your second sentence.Deezell, these discussions always break down into two camps. Those whose business was electronics or broadcasting or studio work and those whose hobby is audio... The latter will not be convinced by rational argument or measurements.
Yes it is an arrogance..the exact same arrogance that an immunologist working 40 years in the field , has for for a Johnny come lately who suggests that bleach or herd immunity works without any supplied evidence. Science does not have all the answers, but it has the methodology and in this case .. electrical circuits 200 years of evidence.That sounds quite arrogant, dannielll. Plenty of of laypeople are keen to learn about the specialist science and engineering, and are entirely open to the rationale and evidence. Quiet a proportion of those people are likely to come from other disciplines that have a reasonable understanding of the general scientific method. I would suggest that you're displaying an egocentric outlook that's revealed by your use of mixed tense in your second sentence.
I have very similar kit to you - Blak amp, Node 2i and even the same speaker cable although I use a set of 1982 B&W DM14 speakers.Hi everyone
This is my first post regarding Hifi as I've just purchased my first system!
I have Roksan Blak integrated amp, Node 2i streamer and Fyne Audio F502 loudspeakers. I use Chord Clearway speaker cables and for twin RCA from the Node to the amp.
Firstly, I auditioned a number of integrated amplifiers and all in ones (streamer and amp). The last amp I audtioned was Roksan K3 which I absolutely loved but I decided to buy the Blak as I heard and nothing but amazing reviews and because it is supposed be higher end model with superior components so I didn't even bother to audition it.
The problem is that when I listen to it now it seems a bit 'restrained', does the amp need time to 'burn in'? When I tried the K3 it was already very sweet and open (I guess its been an ex demo model for a good few years) and I also auditioned a new Cyrus One Cast which I really liked sraight out of the box
I really don't want to return the Blak as it seems not to make sense going back to a cheaper/lesser models. The thing is I don't want to take too long to decide because Im afraid I will go over the 14 day cooling off period after which I can't return it.
Does anyone have any experience with the Blak? If the issue is insufficient time to 'burn in' then how long would it take and can this be sped up somehow?
Separately, would adding an external DAC like the Chord Mojo improve sound quality given that it would need to be MQA certified too as I listen to MQA (and non MQA files) through Tidal?
Although, I've bought relatively expensive gear, I'm still really new to HIfi, so please keep your simple as you can.
Thank you so much in advance for your help!
Wai
That's your brain, your hearing and perception filtering the source psychoacoustically. Over a short time it will adjust your perception in a way plain audio filter could never do. You started with an excellent source, it's still driving the speakers with a signal which is identical from the first day you turned it on. You had never heard this particular system before. Now you have got accustomed to it. Real, measurable artefacts such as noise and distortion, phase and frequency response affect the sound you hear for real reasons, yet you can listen to such a source and not hear these defects as much from repeated listening. What are the units of measurement for audio 'Glare'? By how many micro glints did it reduce? Honestly...
Maybe your speakers had to adjust to your new amp...