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Alternative for AVC-A11XV

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by Maxheadroom, Aug 25, 2005.

  1. Maxheadroom

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    I need a new amp and I like the look of the Denon AVC A11XV.
    However apart from the fact that it's way way more than I was looking to pay, and since Denon dropped this bombshell:

    "As from 18th July 2005, no dealer will be allowed to sell this product via mail order - it is strictly 'collection only' "

    It puts Denon right out the picture for me anyhow.

    So, the big selling points of the AVC-A11xv for me was the upconversion to HDMI and the ability to use the 2 'spare' channels (7.1 amp / 5.1 speaker set up) to bi amp the front speakers. (The funky touch screen lcd remote was nice too but that's hardly a deal breaker :) )

    Can anyone recomend an amp like that?
     
  2. mutley

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    Pioneer Ax4

    Denon 4306

    Both due Setember / October
     
  3. kumamoto

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    marantz sr 9600. But same problem. Collection only.
     
  4. Wasabi

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    Yamaha 4600

    collection only.

    Can't wait to areadvd do a super test between

    marantz 8500
    pioneer ax4
    yamaha 4600
    denon 4306

    All in the same price league.

    Wasabi
     
  5. Maxheadroom

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    Ah, that could be a goer, we do at least have a Marantz agent over here. sure is one ugly amp though.
    Plus the spec mentions video switching as opposed to video up conversion. is that the same thing? up conversion suggests there's some sort of processing involved
     
  6. Geezer

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    Its not the same thing no. But the Marantz does do up conversion to component too.
     
  7. Maxheadroom

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    It's really upconversion to HDIM I'm looking for. 1 lead to the telly and all that. Do any amps do that other than the Denon AVC A11XV?
     
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    If the Denon is WAY to expensive, it might help if we knew what your budget was. I suspect that your going to struggle unless you look for a good second hand unit.

    I know someone selling a 2 year old Denon AVC-A11sr for £500, 3 component in
    (but only switching) BUT you could add an RGB to component convertor at a reasonable cost. This would allow you to get what your looking for at well below the cost of the A11XV. or you could add a scaler with the added benefit of greatly improved picture quality

    Hope that helps
     
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    Thats what i would do if i wanted an upscaling amp, buy a scaler such as a lumagen, then with the remaing proceeds either get an all in one or look for separates.
     
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  11. Maxheadroom

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    It's more than I wanted to spend but it's less than the limit on my credit card.

    Thanks for all the advice. I think I need to go back to square 1 and think about what I need again. I've never even owned an AV amp and I'm a bit of a newbie.

    Right then, here's what I have so far.

    speakers (all kef)
    IQ5's (front)
    IQ1's (rear)
    IQ2c (Center)
    PSW2500 (sub)

    At some point I'd like to get a 50" plasma. maybe the PDP506XDE.

    ...and I'm looking for an amp to hold it all together.

    As mentioned above HDMI up conversion and bi-amping the fronts with the spare rear surrounds were the selling points I was looking for.
    However many amps do the bi-amping thing. The Denon 1906 does it and it's only around around £330. So paying an extra £2k just to get the hdmi conversion is just plain silly.
    Sure the AVC-A11XV has more to it but for nearly 10x the price I'd want it to sound 10x better.

    Then there's this:
    So maybe I should drop that as a consideration? If I'm going to spend that amount on an amp it's got to be with me for the long haul.

    Sorry for the rambling post I clearly haven't got a clue. Anyway, here's the summery:

    I need an AV amp to complement the speakers listed above. It's almost exclusively for use with home cinema more than music.
    An option to bi-amp front speakers and HDMI conversion are 'nice to haves'
    It won't be in a big room so I don't needs bags of raw power.
     
  12. Br41ns

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    :hiya:

    Just got my yamaha rx-v4600 yesterday and i would def give it an audition, excellent bit of kit. :D
    It doesnt upscale to hdmi only component but it does do hdmi switching.
     
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    Seriously thinking about taking the plunge with this one myself. Could you give us an idea of how you rate it (once you've had time to 'play' with it of course).
    Regards, :)
     
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    Max,

    I'm in a similiar dilema myself and after reading this post I have now decided to go for a receiver / amp with the best sound I can afford rather than the HDMI upscaling etc. Screen / Visual Technology is changing a lot at the moment so I am going to buy a dedicated switcher / upscaler when things settle down a bit. Besides I can't afford an HDMI display yest anyway :)
     
  15. Maxheadroom

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    Cool. That's a sensible route to go down. I might do the same Let me know what you decide on (or what you've narrowed it down to)
     
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    Hey Max,

    I am now looking at the option of a seperate Processor and Amp which is a bit of a change but if I don't need all this in-built video uplscaling (because I am afraid it will soon be superceded, e.g. 1080p) and other giggery pokery it seems like I would be better off spending my money on the sound quality and amplification.

    From my understanding a seperates approach gives you more choice over what you spend your money on and (ok I am generallising here) it seems you may get more bang for your buck if sound quality is your priority.

    Check out my newbie post here , there have been a few suggestions you may like to check out all for around the 2k price point.
     

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