Cas - no offence but there should be no spoilers for Prometheus in there: the first few paragraphs explains the ending of the film.
I actually rather enjoyed this. Sure, plenty of flaws, super dumb crew, for example, but that’s almost a trope of these movies by now. There are things that are unexplained, but I am not sure they are exactly ‘plot holes’ as such - that depends on what happens in the next movie (if it gets made). There seems to be a bit of resentment from fans that the origin of the Alien is not the one they had imagined, but at least there is nothing as dissapointing as the start of Ailen3 that literally undermines the entire point of Aliens within the first minute, and Covenant provides a few twists that aren’t completely predictable.
At the very least you can count on Ridley Scott to deliver a great looking movie, this one is no exception. It’s a shame (for me) this wasn’t released in 3D though, as Prometheus is an excellent example of the format, but it’s a good looking Blu-Ray anyway. (I haven’t gone UHD yet, although I actually bought the UHD/Blu-ray pack of this ‘just in case’, as it was only a couple of quid more).
I think the Alien 3 comparison couldn't be more accurate. Scott completely undermines the whole point of Prometheus with what he does in Covenant, almost in exactly the same way.
That depends on what you consider the “whole point” of Prometheus to be - a key point of Aliens is that Newt is a surrogate for Ripley’s daughter. For another director to throw away beloved characters we rooted for so casually was an insult to the previous movie and the fans. However Scott obviously feels that David is the more interesting protagonist in these movies, as a kind of “Frankenstein’s monster”. For sure, the revelations in Covenant could have been handled better, but I didn’t feel that the entire point of Prometheus was undermined, as to me, the real point of that movie was to lead us towards an explanation of the origin of the Aliens, not just a ‘survival horror’ movie.
I wasn't just talking about what happened to the protagonist. What about the Engineers? Whatever 'point' Prometheus had wasn't serviced by Covenant. It just pretended there was another 'point'.
I wasn't just talking about what happened to the protagonist. What about the Engineers? Whatever 'point' Prometheus had wasn't serviced by Covenant. It just pretended there was another 'point'.
Well Scott's stated aim of these movies is to explain how an Engineer ship full of Alien eggs, and with an Engineer pilot at the helm came to end up on LV-426 some time before the Nostromo finds it. If he is true to that aim, then that would suggest that we are not done with the Engineers just yet. Of course if another movie is not made, then this story line ends with a huge and unexplained cliffhanger, but for now I can accept that not everything had to be tied up in this one movie.
Surely the point of Prometheus is that they are tasked with finding our creators and its part of explaining how the aliens came to be, plus it expands on the alien universe.
Covenant carries on with explaining the aliens origins.
I'm not sure it's really anymore complicated and I don't see how Covenant squashed the ideas in Prometheus as it was one guy funding the mission and well they won't be funding missions like that anymore considering what happens.
Hard to not include spoilers really discussing this.
The blu ray extras definitely add more substance and meaning to the back story between both films and covenant.
I agree extended edition incoming @ rhino2k
I gave up after about an hour on the second spin when I remembered I had some paint to watch drying...Thanks for the review Cas,like you i didnt take to it,maybe another spin soon
So am I the only one that thinks the opening of Alien 3 is brilliant then ?
Yup, cause it's a direct sequel. How would you even write about any of the Alien sequels without spoiling the preceding films? The mere existence of Ripley in the Aliens was a spoiler to Alien and so forth.
There should at least be a warning then, imho.