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Alarming "advice" from Dixons

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by Stephen Wilde, Jan 2, 2005.

  1. Stephen Wilde

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    Had a look at Dixons' display of LCD and plasmas to try and assess relative picture qualities but it was impossible due to poor feed and setup.
    The assistant told me with a straight face that plasma was a bad buy in relation to LCD because plasmas "die" after about 3 years when something inside wears out.
    Hope he is wrong because both my displays get to 3 years in 2005!!
    Is this part of a deliberate ploy to move the larger numbers of LCD screens now being flooded onto the market?
     
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    This is probably the great re-gassing story that seems to have been around in Dixons & Currys for some time know. I guess it just gets passed from one generation of salesmen to the next.
     
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    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

    Please dont say u believed the assistant for one second :suicide:
     
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    and people wonder why no one trusts salemen
     
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    dixons and currys seem to be closing a lot of stores
    :suicide: i wonder why
     
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    Told me the same thing a few months ago: no point buying plasma because they just stop working after a few years.

    Must have all gone on the same training course.
     
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    i dont agree with what he says but i do think lcd will take over either this year or next
     
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    I'd be surprised shoppers still seek advice from the sales staff at places like Dixons or Currys. :rolleyes: It is fun though to see how little they know... :eek:
     
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    Problem is that the vast majority of shoppers at Dixons and Currys don't know any better and will believe everything that they are told there. A lot of people I know wouldn't go near a dedicated AV/Audio shop to purchase a TV (even something as expensive as a plasma).

    John
     
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    Pansonic spec sheet for the PW6 says service life of 60K hrs (time until 50% brightness so perhaps longer in the home). Rule of thumb 1k hrs = 1 month, 10k hrs = 1yr, so 6yrs if on 24/7 or 18yrs if 8hrs/day.

    As usual dixons/currys salesmen know :censored: all .
     
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    1k hours = 1 month

    lets assume 30 days in our month, so you are watching your plasma 33 hours a day
    back to DIXONS TRAINING SCHOOL FOR YOU MATEY
    lol
     
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    60,000 hours of life at 8 hours perday is 25+ years IIRC
     
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    I asked the assistant in my local branch why the picture quality varied so much from plasma to plasma and i expressed that i did not think they had some screens setup correctly or on a dirty feed, the sales assistant said they were all fed off the same feed and all correctly setup and it was just the difference in quality of each plasma screen.

    They had a Panasonic Vierra 37" new model and that looked awful, the Philips next to it looked better picture quality wise.

    It goes to show that it really pays to shop around or get a plasma from a reputable seller who knows what they are on about.
     
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    Squonk,

    You've just committed blasphemy... a Panny better than a Philips...no way :laugh: :laugh:

    Shame on you!! :devil:

    PS.. I have a Philips and love it (probally to the irritation of most Panny lovers on this forum)
     
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    Now to be fair to Dixon Stores Group, have you been into Comet ? :)
     
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    Comet,DSG - they are all the same,with the same dodgy advice,the same dodgy salesmen (and women!),and the same hard pushed dodgy extended warranties.If the missus blew the toaster up,I'd have no qualms about going to either of them for a replacement.

    If the Plasma went,then thats another story ........
     
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    So, there I am, in Comet, glancing at their DMTECH 17ich LCD with built in DVD player when this young asian female comes up behind and asks if she can help me. At first, I didn't realise she was talking to me so I ignored her. Slightly louder and more insistantly, she asks again, can she help me.

    "Yes - can the DVD player in this be made multi-region?" I ask.
    She replies, "What exactly do you mean by that?"

    So I politely inform her that she now has the answer to her original question, and leave.
     
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    Reminds me of a classic Dilbert strip:

    Boss: We're going to introduce our new product to the sales force.
    Dilbert: But they're salesman ?!
    Boss: We'll keep it simple.

    [later that day at the sales training centre]

    Boss: This is our new product.
    Salesman: What is it?
    Boss: It's grey, and runs on electricity.
    Salesman: Arrrh, too much information, TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!! [plonk]

    :)
     
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    Wasn't there a sketch by Smith & Jones years ago where they were supposed to be demonstrating a new hi fi system. They were spouting out terms and the audience kept on interrupting them and asking what they meant and it was obvious that they didn't have a clue. Went something along the lines of:

    "and it features a graphic equalizer...."
    "what does that do?"
    "the graphic equalizer?...well...it, er....it equalises your graphics..."
    "yep, that's correct, if your graphics aren't equal, this will sort it out"

    etc
     
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    The graphic equaliser is a good case in point. A hi-fi purist would not dream of buying an amplifier that didn't have a graphic equaliser. Then, when he got the amp home, he would set the equaliser controls to dead flat response, because any other setting would imply that his system was anything less than perfect :laugh:
     
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    I believe I said rule of thumb, i.e. rough numbers you can work out in your head without a calculator. Clearly, with a calculator, an average year is 8766 hrs (365.25 days) and thus an average month is 1/12 that, 731. But it's so much easy to say 60k hrs is more than 6 yrs, or more than 18yrs watching 1/3 the day. When you realise expected life is more than 18yrs then that's more than enough as you'll be changing it before then (100in holographic, etc.
    :) )
     
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    holographic allright, but will it be Sky-HD compatible...? :laugh: :suicide:
     
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    Huh? I think you got that wrong. Don't you mean 'that did have a graphic eqialiser'?
     
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    Don't forget they own PC World as well

    I went in Currys today to try to get a DVI monitor cable ,don't sell monitor cables try PC World on next estate.
    Go in PC World & yes they sell DVI monitor cables £49.99 :eek:
     
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    No, I didn't mean that, Ian. Lots of people I know have amps with graphic equalisers, but I don't see many that aren't set dead flat.
     
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    I dont think I hifi purist would be seen dead buying an amp which had a graphic equaliser. The only features that he would want are volume and source selection. In the old days a tape loop was nice but not any more!
     
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    Being a hi-fi purist myself, you are correct. An amp with a graphic equaliser would be a big no no. The electronics behind the equaliser may affect the sound and true flat may be slightly out. Most expensive pre-amps or integrated amps do not have tone controls at all, or if they do, they have the means to totally defeat them, bypassing the circuits altogether.

    Jonathan
     
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    I sort of agree with Jon. Certainly it is instilled in any hi-fi purist from the outset, and has been with me ever since I first started buying seperates way back in 1993.

    However, it is rather outdated information nowadays!

    http://www.tactaudio.co.uk/
    http://www.emotiveexcellence.com/

    and others...

    The reality is that in any real world implementation, to truly meet the hi-fi purists goal, you need to manipulate both the frequency and time domain of reproduced sounds. The question is how you do it - analog controls are crude, new digital technology providing for far more accuracy.

    Not that it's really a debate for a plasma forum though.
     
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    First of dixons is owned by the same group as comet
    2nd the panasonic shouldnt get respect just becuase of its reveiws ( It has low resolution and no Hi defination compatablity ) useless if you want it in 15 months :laugh: gotta be kidding ! Look at the Pioneer and the Fujitsu Nice picture and future proof for a little bit longer ! Need i say more!
     
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    Are you sure about that.....
     

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