Ahhh Too Many P-j Units!

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  1. The Canuck

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    I am having some trouble deciding on what to get for my home theater.

    SO MANY MANUFACTURES!!!!:eek:

    I think it might help if I give room dimensions first.
    16' wide x 15' long. 8 ' celing height
    1 open wall behind loungers with retractable heavy curtain.
    The walls and carpet are very dark in color, white suspended tile.

    Can't decide if a CRT, DPL or LCD projector over a cabinet version for type of veiwing unit.

    I like all types of movies, action, drama, sci-fi.

    I want something quiet,
    low power requirments,
    easy to maintain,
    good to veiw from all angles ( 15' back to the loungers )
    Can eventually be upgraded ( IE Line doubler)
    HD compatable
    Project a 5-8' wide image in 16x9 format.
    Be ceiling mountable +/or retracable

    Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

    :D
     
  2. Nic Rhodes

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    Go and see a specialist and view the different methods. It is the only way, it will then all fall into place. Most of us have been there!
     
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    Whats your Budget?
     
  4. The Canuck

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    My budget is around 6000.00 screen included.

    I have seen some info on the SONY PCD projector. Nice unit. Budget is not really a concern at this point. Its the pros and cons that I am interested in finding more about.

    Bulb Costs, screen types, alignment issues, setup etc.
     
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    I would say LCD or DLP is easiest to setup yourself as CRT requires specialist setup and maintenance. Bulbs can be expensive and the lifetime is an important factor. Sony bulbs for the VW11 are over £300 and last upto 3,000 hours in 700 lumens (Cinema Black Mode). New offerings by Panasonic and Philips (AE100 and Monroe) promise lifespans of 5,000 hours.

    Pick a new DLP like the SIM2 as it uses second generation DLP chips and are less susceptable to the rainbow effect.

    - I want something quiet,
    All projectors have fans to cool them. You can use a hushbox to dampen the sound. I have a Sony VW11HT which is reasonably quiet.

    - low power requirments,
    Normal mains supply for LCD and DLP - can't comment on CRT

    - easy to maintain,
    LCD/DLP

    - good to veiw from all angles ( 15' back to the loungers )
    Pretty much all projectors but it can depend on the lens throw distance i.e. my Sony gives an 80"x45" HDTV format picture from ~12 feet so it's short throw. I think the SIM2 is a long throw.

    - Can eventually be upgraded ( IE Line doubler)
    Not sure.

    - HD compatable
    Most modern projectors. Depends on connectivity.

    - Project a 5-8' wide image in 16x9 format.
    Widescreen 16x9 format LCD and DLP panels can do this.

    Be ceiling mountable +/or retracable
    No problem for DLP/LCD but CRTs are quite bulky and heavy.


    Hope that helps.
     
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    Yes that does help. In fact I was just looking at the SONY catalogue last night. And they have the VLP-HS1 LCD unit listed for $4000.00 (canadian) + the portable/mountable screen either the SP-60, 80 or 100. I am partial to the 100" ( Like the big picture ):D

    But what about that resolution of 800x600. Are you happy with it?

    And the new HDIT technology that is coming next year. Is there any info on the compatability? :confused:

    I guess I have more questions than answers to my own querry's
    And it seems that the SONY store people are not very informed about the LCD units, let alone having seen one hhoked up. At this point I am happy to rely on opinions.

    Thanks for the replies, and your help. I am hoping to have some pics up so the room can be seen as a work in progress. Carpet goes in next week along with some framed movie posters I was able to get.

    IE 'Bullet'-Steve McQueen, Metropolis-Android Pose, Mission Impossible 2-Marquee Display, Starwars-Empire Strikes Back (1st edition.) and a few others. Should look good once its all done.:p
     
  7. Timh

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    Please tell me you are using low refection glass.
     
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    The first decision is to opt for CRT or non-CRT.
    If you can afford it (you can if that 6,000 is UK pounds rather than Canadian Dollars) and you have the space (you don't say space is a problem) then always go for CRT as the image quality is MILES better than LCD or DLP.
    Those people who don't go for CRT usually have a very limited budget and/or aren't prepared to ceiling mount. By going for something like the £1500 panny LCD, they are getting a projector oriented towards price and convenience at the expense of image quality. Having said that the picture quality is acceptable to a lot of people.
    On the other hand, if you want better quality image (and in my opinion that's what it's all about), you can get, for example, the Ellie 2000 plus screen installed for less than £6000. There may be Canadian equivalents of this cheap analogue CRT projector.
    Or if you want even better picture quality, go for a used (datagrade or better) CRT - also installed with a screen for way less than £6k. There are several reputable used CRT dealers who frequent these forums.
    Going the used CRT route will also enable you to play DVDs with a HCPC, which gives stunning picture quality (miles better than any stand alone DVD player).
     
  9. Paul Hayward

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    Hi Specter,

    With a budget of £6000 including the screen, I would also consider the used CRT route via Roland assuming I had the space and expert installer. However, above this price the newer DLP's are getting much closer to the CRT benchmark and in terms of clarity and sharpness are actually setting the standard.

    Regards,

    Paul H
     
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    The glass is not glass, but a lexan plastic with low reflective quality.

    And with the question about space in the room. With a CRT ceiling mounted it gives me 10-11 feet of image throw to the screen. I did veiw the SONY LCD today and I was very pleased with its 12' throw and 74 inch wide image, and it was using the standard RCA video feed. the RGB would give an even better picture quality. Used PJ dealers in Calgary? Never even looked, so I can snoop around the yellow pages and see what I can find.

    Thanks for the tips GENTS!
     
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    As Spectre said, CRT is the best way to go for image quality, but if your happy with with the image from LCD, go for it, it just depends what sought of picture quality you want at the end of the day.
    Lcd is good, but CRT rocks.
     
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    I viewed a SANYO today. Much better than the sony. And more versatile. And the CRT may rock, but it will rock me right out of positive bank roll. Yikes!!

    I priced some out ( USED is still over 5000.00 canadian) and that doesn't include wires, screen, and all the other stuff you need.

    I think LCD will be my route. So aside from a few minor details, this thing is practically purchased! I can already see it installed.

    Thanks again gentlemen for all the advise and tips.
    ;) :eek: ;)
     
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    Hi 'The Canuck'

    When you mention the Sanyo, I'm assuming you mean the Sanyo VPL60? If you are considering this type of pj then I urge you to visit 'www.thebigpictureDVD.com/bigequipment14.shtml'. If you just get through to the home page then click on the 'Hardware Reveiw' from the menu sidebar. Jeff McNeal, the owner of this site has recently reveiwed the Studio Experience (Boxlight) 13-HD 16:9 LCD multimedia projector. This is a modified version of the Sanyo and Jeff found it has significant advantages over the VPL60. He liked it so much I think he has bought it for his own personal use. Jeff championed the Sony W400 in the 'early' days and his views are sound and trustworthy in my view. See what you think,

    Best Wishes,

    Paul H
     
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    Well, I had a demo with a place that sells both SANYO and the Boxlite brand. I have made choice regarding my PJ unit. Its the PLC-2W20 LCD Projo. It is capable of everything I want and I can get the unit with mounted tension screen for under $4500.00.

    Go check out the sanyo site if you're interested.

    SANYO CORP

    A complete list of their LCD units is available.

    Too bad the SONY LCD unit is so limited, it was a nice clear image. :rolleyes:

    And I will check out the unit you mentioned as well. Thanks Paul.

    Where can I post images of my theatre room as I get it completed?

    I am eager to show it off. :clown:
     

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