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Packetfront

Guest
Yes kind of but you get used to the picture from HD and after you watched about 20 movies you don't think it's so special anymore.

My jaw dropped when I used to have my Toshiba HD-XA1 in the beginning but after a while i didn't take any notice, i guess you get spoiled after awhile, it's like when you buy a new fast car, first 3 months it's great.

But of course you notice the difference in detail and depth of the picture, just look at the intro of Chronicles of Riddick.
 

paulfoley

Prominent Member
I watch all my HD-DVD's on a 96" PJ Screen and all DVD's on a 32" LCD TV - Its better that way!

:thumbsup:
 

supermackem

Prominent Member
I watched click dvd the other month and wow i could make ut all the noise in the picture the lack of sharpness everything i had taken for granted on hddvd even the worst form of ddvd simply makes dvd look bad.
 

klacey

Prominent Member
I had nearly 1000 dvds, i have none now, that answer your question.:rotfl:
 

Ed Selley

Hi-Fi Editor
If I like the film I'd be happy to watch it on a 14" B&W portable.
One of the big trip ups to me buying into the whole HD business is still the relative paucity of material that I actually want to watch. I enjoy the technology of HD and have fun tinkering with it at work but do I feel a sense of dissapointment when I watch a film I like on DVD? Nope :).

I sometimes feel that people would watch experimental pile surgery if it came with the proviso that it was being shown in 1080p.
 

Pincho Paxton

Ex Member
I had nearly 1000 dvds, i have none now, that answer your question.:rotfl:

But what about the ones that you can't replace in HD? Don't you miss them?
 

MikeK

Prominent Member
I sometimes feel that people would watch experimental pile surgery if it came with the proviso that it was being shown in 1080p.

LOL - too true! :)

On second thoughts, it might be better than some of the crap that's been served up so far (by both camps). :)
 

Pincho Paxton

Ex Member
I sometimes feel that people would watch experimental pile surgery if it came with the proviso that it was being shown in 1080p.

Or even HULK!!!
 

Dave2

Prominent Member
when i 1st watched HD disc i was like not much difference little sharper and when i put a sd-dvd on i was like :) omg the difference is well noticible. I put the hd-dvd disc back in compared serenity as i had both hd-dvd and sd and :O hd-dvd was draw dropping when compared.

You will only be dissapointed though if you expect too much from SD-DVD but you have watched it for years so you are used to it , hd-dvd is just the next evolution which you can enjoy.
 

the_pauley

Ex Member
I sometimes feel that people would watch experimental pile surgery if it came with the proviso that it was being shown in 1080p.
Starring Ben Affleck and J Lo, no doubt. :D
 

epicdream

Established Member
There is a trap you can get into and that is watching a HD disc, going wow! and then playing the same SD DVD on the same player (which is now upscaling).

Sometimes, the difference isn't staggering because of the upscaling. Iam sure if you play it back on an older dvd player (without the upscaling) then the difference would be more pronounced.

I love HD :thumbsup: , just played back the opeining from Miami Vice HD-DVD and it looks superb (no matter what High Def digest says!). :rolleyes:

Neill
 

gixxerman

Established Member
Nic Rhodes said:
Originally Posted by Ed Selley said:
experimental pile surgery.

Is this available yet?
the_pauley said:
Starring Ben Affleck and J Lo, no doubt.

- It's the 'killer' movie release guaranteed to ensure Blu-ray crushes all before it and is, lo, verily acclaimed as pure divinity itself by all of mankind.

Just you wait.

er, probably.
 

Ekko Star

Distinguished Member
There is a trap you can get into and that is watching a HD disc, going wow! and then playing the same SD DVD on the same player (which is now upscaling).

Sometimes, the difference isn't staggering because of the upscaling. Iam sure if you play it back on an older dvd player (without the upscaling) then the difference would be more pronounced.Neill

I did just that with the XBOX HD up against my Pioneer 989. I invited my nephew around and TBH we were well dissapointed with the HD film. Of the two the pioneer SD won it every time. It just goes to show hardware and material have to work together to get the best out of the format.
 

Oakleyspatz

Prominent Member
If I like the film I'd be happy to watch it on a 14" B&W portable.

As I watch most of my movies on my 96" wide projector screen, I do notice the difference between HD and SD to the point that I really do not enjoy SD DVD much on my projector now and tend to watch them on my TV. Yes, a good film is a good film and that's the most important aspect, but just as you wouldn't want to watch a movie on pirate VHS because the bad quality lowers your enjoyment of the movie, I much prefer to watch a movie and just be in awe at the pristine transfer, depth of field and vibrant colours of the image rather than be distracted by grain, edge enhancement and other artifacts.
After all, if none of us should be worried about the quality of the image and just enjoy the film, why do we have HD gear at all?
 

T800

Prominent Member
I did just that with the XBOX HD up against my Pioneer 989. I invited my nephew around and TBH we were well dissapointed with the HD film. Of the two the pioneer SD won it every time. It just goes to show hardware and material have to work together to get the best out of the format.

Surely it's a problem with you or your display, cables, eyesight, distance, calibration etc, I can't believe for a second that any SD film will ever be better than it's HD counterpart unless there is a fault.

What screen you using, how far away are you, have you calibrated it ?
 

Pincho Paxton

Ex Member
I did just that with the XBOX HD up against my Pioneer 989. I invited my nephew around and TBH we were well dissapointed with the HD film. Of the two the pioneer SD won it every time. It just goes to show hardware and material have to work together to get the best out of the format.

And I thought the war was HD-DVD vs Blue-Ray! In the end The Upscalers are winning! :clap:
 

Andy Leitch

Established Member
Surely it's a problem with you or your display, cables, eyesight, distance, calibration etc, I can't believe for a second that any SD film will ever be better than it's HD counterpart unless there is a fault.

What screen you using, how far away are you, have you calibrated it ?
I tend to agree with T800. I have over 300 HD titles and no equivalent SD DVD upscaled on my Pioneer 868, looks better than the HD version.
 

Ekko Star

Distinguished Member
Well out of King Kong HD Xbox 360 and SD Pioneer 989 and SD Denon 3910 both the latter gave a preferential picture. The HD did have detail and in some places was noticable but it wasn't better per se.

In actual fact I did a blind test on a friend and unsurprisingly he preferreed the SD picture as well. Maybe it's just my set up, but both projectors, were defo same story and that's 3/3 people who went for SD. I will try with my plasma's and LCD's later on to see if it's a different story there.

I can't really fault my display equipment and the way it's set up ;)

For £130 it's a great bundle and no quibbles on that but on the strength of what have seen so far, I'm reserving judgement if SD is dead in the water. Maybe need to try a few more films ?

I think POTC2 should be a very good comparision
 

T800

Prominent Member
Well out of King Kong HD Xbox 360 and SD Pioneer 989 and SD Denon 3910 both the latter gave a preferential picture. The HD did have detail and in some places was noticable but it wasn't better per se.

In actual fact I did a blind test on a friend and unsurprisingly he preferreed the SD picture as well. Maybe it's just my set up, but both projectors, were defo same story and that's 3/3 people who went for SD. I will try with my plasma's and LCD's later on to see if it's a different story there.

I can't really fault my display equipment and the way it's set up ;)

For £130 it's a great bundle and no quibbles on that but on the strength of what have seen so far, I'm reserving judgement if SD is dead in the water. Maybe need to try a few more films ?

I think POTC2 should be a very good comparision

Not really, it's not out in HD and if it ever comes out on HD-DVD it won't be until Disney decides to jump on board.
 

Ekko Star

Distinguished Member
Ok, pity that because POTC2 is a cracking SD transfer.
 

Mr.D

Distinguished Member
Sorry but even against an HTPC running ffdshow for upscaling there is no contest between HD-DVD and upscaled SD DVD. If you can't see the difference then there is something wrong with either the kit or your eye-sight.
 

Pincho Paxton

Ex Member
I can't really fault my display equipment and the way it's set up ;)

I think you need to find fault with your equipment in this case. It wouldn't really make sense for Upscaled DVD to be better than HD-DVD. Not with King Kong anyway.
 

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