I'm convinvced!!! I've had the Panny a few months now and very happy with it. I've been using a Pioneer DV535 via s-video into the PJ and was pleased. It depends alot on the transfer, but good transfers look good. I was also pleased with the fact that it had the ability to look better when I got 'round to it. Anyway.....I got a laptop recently through work which has a Mobility Radeon card (don't know if its any good but Radeon seems to be talked alot about for HCPC). I loaded up Powerstrip and it took the Wide480 and 720 settings no problem. So I hooked it up to the Panny via VGA and ran a couple of disks. First impression - seems pretty good, just a little smoother and clearer than s-vid. So tweaked some more and wow!! The difference seems quite subtle at first, but when you go back to s-video you really see it. It just looks cleaner, clearer and smoother. Also there is a "Natural" setting instead of "Cinema" in the picture menu that I think looks really nice. Even the SE of Tombstone is reasonably watchable as it suffers badly from Edge Enhancement, as it doesn't look so bad on the laptop. Anyway, if you have the chance try the HCPC route, give it some time, you'll love it. I can't comment about Prog,scan players but against S-vid (which is good) it is great. Now I want a dedicated HCPC!! More money!!!