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AE100 - get xdemo/repaired OR pricematch new?

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by sainthalo, Mar 11, 2003.

  1. sainthalo

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    Hello everyone - summary: taken the plunge! but now thinking about cancelling and getting an ex demo refurb...

    I have ordered an AE100 from Empire for £1100 and pricematched it down to £720 using Empires 120% price promise against s&v. There could be reliability problems as we know.

    I just read here that someone thought he was better off with a repaired one as at least he knows it wont go wrong and i think he has a point! So I am thinking of cancelling this order and getting an ex demo/refurb one for £640. Is it correct to assume that as it has already been repaired and has a full warranty, it is as good as getting a new one? Im not worried about Whytes reputation as I will be paying by credit card and so have the same legal rights (see consumer credit act) against the cc company as against the retailer (NB i consider i am legally entitled to a 3 year warranty on this product - see sale of goods act).

    I am not fussy about it being brand new or not but normally refurb means poor quality (especially for refurb tv sets) but in this case with a specialised product with a known problem - I imagine Panny would have repaired properly before releasing for resale with full warranty.

    It will get a lot of wear - possibly 3500 hours a year so i will soon know about any problems!

    Im very keen to save the extra £80 (I know its cheap anyway but i LOVE a bargain!). Could any kind soul let me have their thoughts please to avoid me making a mistake!!? TIA:smashin:
     
  2. theritz

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    Hi, Sainthalo,

    Really this is a matter on which you have to decide yourself - it's reasonable to assume that a factory refurb will be ok and given that the guarantee is the same duration as new, you should be ok. At the price a refurb machine, it really is the bargain of the moment. A bit dubious about the 3500 hrs a year - 70 hrs a week, 10 hrs a day, day in, day out ? I'd think carefully about two things:

    Firstly, a PJ is not a telly, you'd need light control ~(near total blackout to get a decent image.


    Second piece of advice is to consider carefully before running the PJ for 10 or 12 hrs on the trot - you should take some care to ensure that the PJ runs fairly coool by increasing the fan speed while maintaining the lamp on "low" setting - eventually heat-soak into the optics will give you burnt polarising filters or bad uniformity problems. If these emerge during warranty period then you're covered otherwise you'll just have burnt out the PJ.

    (At c.£600, maybe this is an affordable option - its just a little more than the cost of replacing the bulb in a Sony HS10, I'd say !!).


    Good luck with your choice, let us know how you decide to go.

    Sean G.
     
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    THANKS for the reply!

    ten hours a day is an over estimate.Will be using it to surf the internet, watch some tv (eastenders!), films, pc games etc. prob use it about 40 hours a week i guess. unless it says in the manual not to use it for extended periods then i dont mind if it has problems - panny have to repair it for a couple of years yet and after that i will be more careful!

    I put the rear room lights on in the demo room and image brightness was fine - on low power mode too i think!

    i normally only watch tv in the evening and weekend so shouldnt be a problem for light control (mmm maybe prob in summer...). I do have a backup jvc 4:3 tv which is going in the bedroom so i can watch that if needs be and also a monitor too.

    Bit worried about reading the text on a 6ft screen sitting 10 ft away when surfing net but worth the risk as it is a bargain and can adjust the image size to make text legible at native resolution too?!

    i am thinking of taking the £640 deal now as it makes sense - does anyone know if rw will do a pixel check? will have to call them up and find out...

    any more advice from you guys in the know is appreciated!:clap:
     
  4. sainthalo

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    theritz - are you winding up mr kramer with the hs10 dig!!! i saw a hs10 which was on an expensive screen cf the panny ae100 but the image improvement was simply not worth the extra cost between the machines. also in my small 10ft square room the hs10 noise would be an issue - all in the ae100 is definitely for me and seems to be great value for money subject to reliability (hence i recommend everyone buys by credit card like i have/will -once i decide what to do!). cheers ;)
     
  5. theritz

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    Sainthalo,

    Slag off Kramer or others of the HS10 religion ? Never ! :devil:

    Anyone who wants that many pixels (and that much noise and a dodgy bulb) is very welcome to it :suicide: )


    Seriously, the advantage of the HS10 is very much improved picture quality which comes via the higher resolution and improved contrast - albeit at a price. It's a matter of personal choice whether the improvement is worth the additional cost - at current pricing the HS10 is almost three times the price of an AE100. The front projection game is a matter of compromises, and we each get to pick our particular solution.

    All the best,


    Sean G.
     
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    Hello all

    Just a quickie on this 'purchase by credit card' point. My Panny has been with Panasonic for a couple of months now. They promised me a new one a while back but I still haven't received it. I therefore wrote to the credit card company to see what they would do about it.

    I phoned yesterday to chase them and they told me that there was nothing they would do about it because I returned the PJ direct to Panasonic for repair (rather than to the retailer). I haven't received the letter explaining this in detail yet but I just thought I'd post the warning.

    Without having looked at this in detail yet (which I will be doing of course), I don't know whether they're right to say this but, before returning a unit for repair, please specifically check whether the credit card company will cover you.

    Regards

    Richard
     

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