Advise - 5/7k to spend

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  1. Bibs88

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    Passionate about music, but never had the money to buy a decent hifi. I've now got between 5/7k and want to buy something that will have power and quality to fill and very large high ceiling reception room and also have two speakers in the kitchen which is connected, but a separate room.

    I have been advised on the following:
    KEF XQ5 (PAIR)
    KEF XQ3 (PAIR)
    MUSICAL FIDELITY POWER AMP (DUE OUT SOON) SIMILAR TO THE A5
    MUSICAL FIDELITY A5 CD PLAYER.

    Could I find out what you all think of the above and what else you would advise? Many thanks.
     
  2. Nobber22

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    I reckon the XQ3 might be a bit large for a kitchen.....you got a place for the stands? Perhaps consider the CI Series in the ceiling instead?

    Really what you should do is go demo these and other brands of kit. 7 grand is a lot of money to spend on a recommendation. :)
     
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    Thanks for that, there is enough room in the kitchen area to house the stands.
     
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    Do you wish to run the second pair of speakers at the same time as the main pair.

    Out of interest, why Kef and Musical Fidelity
     
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    Thats alot of money to hand over to MF,you'll know they'll bring out something better next year and you kit is worthless.There's alot of exellent kit out there,you can get alot of sound for that sort of money,widen your net more than KEF and MF,take your time,demo what you can,and good luck.
     
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    Really appreciate the feedback, and can totally understand the questions. I'm keen to get the best sound for the money and feel that the best advice will be here. All I have to go by so far, was the advice from Sevenoaks and they were great, but just want to gauge what everyone in the know would go for.
    Really appreciate the feedback and thanks, Richard
     
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    Bibs88 - I would also look at CYRUS Kit for 5-7k you could get the Following:-

    Cyrus PreXvs @ £1100
    2 x Cyrus XMono Amps @ £2200
    Cyrus CD8x @ £1000

    And for speakers look at either Monitor Audio GR20's (£1500) or ProAc Response D15's (£1700)

    That would be an Awsome system and really worth considering... :)
     
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    Cheers John, appreciate the thoughts.
     
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    Hi

    That’s quite a chunk of change you have to spend. The best advice would be to go to as many hifi specialist dealers and ask them to demo 2 or 3 systems they recommend in your budget. Not that there is anything wrong with the MF/Kef system, just there is so much choice you owe it to yourself to listen to as much kit as possible.

    I took quite a break from buying hifi, concentrated on the AV but when I decided I wanted to start spending again I went to a local hifi shop a couple of times and they were kind enough to demo a lot of gear to give me an idea of how things had changed over the years and what options there were available to me.

    The biggest surprise to me was the first thing I did was buy a Michell Gyrodec and get back into vinyl in a big way. :D

    I haven’t had a chance to hear the A5 stuff but if you ignore the magazine reviews and do a search for peoples opinions it has not been universally well received. What I am saying is make sure you buy what you want and not what the shop wants to sell you. A home demo over a weekend or even better a week is really what you should be looking for after the initial shop demos.

    Some suggestions for kit to search out are the ones mentioned by recruit along with Naim, Rega, Arcam and Meridian for CD and Amp. Speakers wise listen to B&W, Dynaudio and Quad. This will give you a broad range of musical presentations and should narrow down the type of sound you like. The reason for a home demo is because sometimes in a short shop demo a fantastic sounding system turns out to be fatiguing or bass heavy in your own room, plus the average room cannot always have the correct placement of the equipment and right type of furnishings.

    That turned out to be a bit longer than expected but hope it helps. :)

    PS> The MF 308 kit is very good, I run the Pre/Power/CD and is on offer now the A5 is out, if you don’t have to have the absolute latest and are keeping long term then old stock is a good way to get a bargain. I bought all my kit except the turntable used or ex dem and save a load.

    Gus
     
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    Thanks for the advice, I'm going to get myself down to a few hifi specialists and listen to some demos. Cheers, Richard
     
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    Agree on all the advise so far.

    I would go for B&W Speakers but, then I am biased as I always had them. Sevenoaks should have something to look at listen to such as the 800 or Nautlius 800 series.
     
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    I'd add JM Labs Electra range and PMC to the list of recommended speakers. As you are looking for two channel only you should probably give Naim a chance on the electronics.
     
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    Don't forget the likes of Sudgens,Sonneteers,creeks,Coplands,Bel Cantos, of this world,try a more specialised shop,you've got a nice budget,spend it wisely.
     
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    Again, many thanks everyone. All the advice is being taken on board and any other thoughts are very welcome. Really appreciate the time everyone has gone too. Cheers, Richard
     
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    Where abouts in London are you? I'm sure quite a few people would be able to point you in the direction of good hi-fi shops in your area.

    If you're in North London, Graham's in Islington will probably provide you with some pretty good advice.
     
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    Or if you're in central London, go see the guys at The Cornflake Shop - very helpful!
     
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    I'm in West London. So far I've been to Sevenoaks on the Kings Rd. Martin Kleiser in Chiswick and The listening Rooms. All the people have been really helpful. At the moment my favourite option so far is:
    Copland CDA A823 CD
    CTA 305 Pre
    CTA 520 Power
    Speakers: Sonus Faber - Cremona

    What are your thoughts?

    Cheers again all.
     
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    Superb,exellent choice,that's more like it,Copland and SF,like strawberries and cream,I had Copland CTA401(valve),with SF concertino homes for a small room.A very good choice!
     
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    i think at this price, the choice really is up to you and your ears (and eyes!).

    the advice to take your time and find good dealers is all excellent, and im glad youve done it rather than just pick a reviewer's choice

    one important thing though:

    you absolutely MUST get a home demo of your final choices. you are never listening to just a system, but a system in a particular room. this is not a slight difference, but a massive one. my old humble £500 speakers could go from wonderful to terrible depending which room i put them in.

    what did you think of the Kef XQs? with a PSW4000 subwoofer, I would love a pair - and they can fill a huge room with ease..
     
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    Kef's sounded great, lots of polished power. Going back to have another listen this Friday. Again, thanks all for your advice.
     
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    If your requirements are for a second set of speakers in the Kitchen then you need to think carefully. If you add two pairs of 8 ohms (nominal) speakers the amp will see a load of 4 ohms. If you add a pair of 4 ohms speakers the amp will see a 2 ohm load!!!

    Irrespective of this you will need an amp with 2 pairs of speaker binding posts.

    For a large high ceiling-ed room you would probably need a good floorstander that has reasonable sensitivity so something like a Spendor s8e it has a sensitivity of 89 dB and is an 8 ohms speaker. Then you need to think about how important the second set of speakers are. If they are still important to you then a set of bookshelf Spendor s3e which is also an 8 ohm speaker with a sensitivity of 86dB. But the smaller kitchen area should be fine. cost for both pairs about 2-2.5k

    Then you need to think about something to drive them.

    You want something that drives a 4 ohm load well, so a AVi integrated would suit the scenario very well and is very good value at 1.5k. Add an Arcam FMJcd33 for about 1.3k and cables etc for about 50-100 max and you would have a system that would be fabulous and at the lower end of your budget with the capabilities of driving a big sound in your environment.
     
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    Cheers Stuart
     
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    What about the new musical fedelity A5 intergrated amp (£1499) it is rated at 250w per channel!!! and is meant to be a cut down version of the kw500 which is one of the best amps in the world.
     
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    :eek: crap
     
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    why is it crap im thinking of getting one. what is good then.
     
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    I dont know how you feel about used gear, but chosen carefully i.e sticking to high end brands that dont bring out new models every year, you can get a real high end system for not a lot of money.
    My audio set up is as follows (With new prices - what I paid)
    Pass Labs X0 pre (10k - 2.2k)
    Michelle Orbe, Orion, Benz, Fet 10e phonostage, T/Table (6k - 2.4k)
    Bryston 4bss power amp (2.2k - 1k)
    Boulder 500ae power amp (5k - 1k)
    KEF 4.2 refs (4k? - 2.1k)
    Cables (1.5k - .5k)
    My audio system retailed at over 28k and it cost me under 10!!
    It takes a while to get it all together but when your done you know your further down the path to where you want to get and still have change in your pocket.
     

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