Advice for surround speaker placement on 5.1 or whether just to stick with 2.1

Woodsmandem

Standard Member
Hi there folks

I'm after advice on whether placing a surround left speaker way over in the other corner of the room is a good idea or not? My concerns are that it will have to be so much louder than the surround right that it will be a weird listening experience. I realise that AVR set up mics can help with this but have no experience on their effectiveness.

Surround left could either go on the wall on which the sofa is up against or over on the far side of the room attached to the wall. Speaker stands are a no go as I have a manic toddler so everything has to be wall mounted.

The current set up is a 2.1 using:
Marantz NR1200
Dali Oberon 1
BK xls 200

(I will add that this sounds amazing, its just I cant help feel like i'm missing something when watching films haha)

considering asking on the classifieds here for a used 5.1 or 7.1 avr and using satellites for the surrounds, not sure which yet?

Please see diagrams for what the room looks like. the first is my current set up. the second is proposed layout. I'm after advice on speaker placement on the second diagram. I was also thinking this wouldn't sound good so could just go for a 3.1 - diagram 3.

Any thoughts would be appreciated,
Many thanks
Tom
 

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MonkeyCasino

Standard Member
If you get rid of the speaker marked SL by the table then you would have a fairly standard 5.1 with the surrounds either side of the sofa. Ideally you’d want to place the surrounds as close to symmetrical as possible but a little bit different shouldn’t be too much of an issue
 

Woodsmandem

Standard Member
If you get rid of the speaker marked SL by the table then you would have a fairly standard 5.1 with the surrounds either side of the sofa. Ideally you’d want to place the surrounds as close to symmetrical as possible but a little bit different shouldn’t be too much of an issue
Thanks Monkey Casino
https://www.dolby.com/siteassets/ab...-speakers-setup/5_1_virtual_speaker_setup.pdf

here’s the Dolby guide. Slightly behind would be more ideal than slightly in front for the surrounds if you can manage it either via stands or wall mounting?
Thanks, so I completely forgot about the window sill that would be ideal for the surround left. It's half way on the back wall between the sofa and the left hand wall. I'll put it there.
Thanks for the advice about distance between speakers. The surround left will be about 1.5 meters further than the surround right. I guess this is what the oddessy mic will take into account when it sets up the room?
 

MonkeyCasino

Standard Member
You have to work with the room you have! Audyssey/room calibration will help, as you say. Anything you can do to bring that gap down will likely help. I’d be as concerned by too close as much as too far away but you’ll almost certainly be fine.
 

MonkeyCasino

Standard Member
Notice you bought that marantz in the classified - how’s the hunt for speakers going? Is the plan to incorporate the Dalis and BK sub in your 5.1?
 

Woodsmandem

Standard Member
Notice you bought that marantz in the classified - how’s the hunt for speakers going? Is the plan to incorporate the Dalis and BK sub in your 5.1?
Yes I got the 1506 on the classifieds should be with me tomorrow hopefully😁.

Yes my plan is to use the current oberon 1s as L and R channel and the BK sub. I've just won a pair of dali zensor 1s on ebay I'm going to use as the surround left and right. I just thought that they would have similar tone to the oberons so that was why I went for them... My wife isn't happy with the colour of the zensor 1s so I may have to change them up for some more oberons at some point but will have to see.

As for a center channel that would ideally be an oberon vokal Which I don't have yet.
The oberon 1s actually do a great job of a center image/ phantom centre so I may just see how I get on with this and maybe treat myself for Christmas or something.
I should have just gone for a 5.1 over the 2.1 in the first place. 😅
 

MonkeyCasino

Standard Member
I think it’s generally fine to have different fronts and surrounds, and the oberons and zensors will be very similar tonally. The more important thing is that your front 3 match.

A 5.1 will be appreciably better than a 4.1 but depends on you finding a matching vokal at a decent price. Sounds like a plan to run without one until you do! Plenty of pairs of oberons and zensors on eBay etc, would be ideal if you see someone selling a matching set of 3! I’m sure something will come up in the classifieds here too.

One thing you could do by way of (imperfect) test is to run one of your zensors as centre channel in a 3.1 and compare vs just 2.1. This will help you understand how much is going through the centre channel and therefore how much of a priority a vokal is.

Look forward to hearing how things are once you have the marantz configured.
 

Woodsmandem

Standard Member
Thanks for the advice man. Yes I'll try it as a 3.1 first and then can see if it would indeed be worthwhile having the voakal. Thanks, I'll send photos of it when it's done. Going to use cable trunking from b and q to hide cables
 

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