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Discussion in 'Satellite TV, Sky TV & FreeSat' started by n_s_simpson, Dec 13, 2004.

  1. n_s_simpson

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    I was just wondering whether there was any way to remove adverts and replace them with music, blank screen, etc.

    I know that PDC (Programme Delivery Control) allows videos to go on pause while adverts are showing so can this data not be used to switch the picture to something else?

    I have a baby and don't want him watching adverts when he gets older.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    watch only BBC channels? Cbeebies, CBBC or i think TIVO can ad skip but any device that allows for wholsale skipping of adds would just kill commercial TV
     
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    I just don't like ads getting into my boys head. Also it is so annoying that the ads are about twice as loud as the actual programme.
     
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    I don't think PDC allows for the removal of ads. The advertisers would never let it happen. Short of buying a DVD recorder, and manually editing them out yourself, there isn't much else. I think it's going to be hard to keep a child away from advertising very long in our commercialised society. Heck, even this web page sports 5 ads :suicide:
     
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    If there is a signal that a video recorder can use to pause recording when the adverts come on, there must be a way to get this to happen when watching live tv.

    You would think a piece of kit would exist. I don't think advertisers could stop that, although they could put pressure on the TV companies to stop sending the PDC signal out.
     
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    There isn't a signal, and you can be sure that the advertisers would stop broadcasters from using one. There are so many channels competing for the same advertising, so nobody is going to upset the advertisers. It's even been rumoured on here that some adverts are actually shown at a better quality on digital TV (higher than the programmes themselves) to keep the advertisers happy.

    A device like the one you are suggesting will never appear on the market. In the USA, it is rumoured that it will soon not be possible to "fast forward" through adverts, because the advertisers are worried about the new trend towards video recorders containing hard drives, and the simple ability to edit ads or fast-forward through them.
     
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    So how do the recorders miss out the adverts when you programme it using video plus? I don't have one of these recorders but I was sure I heard that the ones with PDC miss out the adverts. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Someone has given you a bum steer there. It's not currently possible to do this, and, as others have said, it's highly unlikely that it will happen. There are even rumours that TV companies want to embed adverts as DOGs to combat people who use HDD recorders to whizz through them.
     
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    there is signal broacast 30 seconds i think before add break watch a commercial channel top right hand corner will have a scrolling black/white box (if your geometry is good enough)that would loose you too much of a programme but can be done in theory... stick to the beeb or just dont let him start watching crap telly and dont let him have one in his room i didnt till i left home and went to uni at 19........
     
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    That's only on ITV and these days is used mainly on live programmes where the ad breaks aren't pre-planned. It was used on "I'm A Celebrity, Save My Career" last week.
     
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    Read about this last week - in the States, TIVO may implement a software change that detects the use of the fast forward button and will display text adverts while you are using fast forward.

    John
     
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    I've just had a look online and read that a group had just done an experiment and found that people using HDD's are fast forwarding the ads actually remembered them 22% better than people who just sat through them.

    Anyway, firstly I read about DOGS being used by Tivo in the US next year. That's down to hardware so it depends whether Sky+ will adopt that idea on their boxes, but I don't think it will be possible with normal HDD recorders. (Although just logos in the corner will still be visible I suppose).

    Secondly that's an idea about using the block in the top right. If only I had any idea how impliment that using a laptop with tv card, etc. Good idea though.
     
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    Quite a few recorders (including Tivo) had/have what was called a 'commercial skip' feature that allowed you to jump forward in 30 second intervals. Now I believe Tivo in the US is collecting viewers watching habits and selling this info to advertisers and networks, together with more interactive ads.
     

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