Paul7777x
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Did you buy a pair of something in the end?
Whoa, this is a completely full concept to me. In a “full stereo” you can’t tell where the sound is coming from?to get the full stereo effect. A foot or 2 either side then its clear where the sound is coming from.
I'll likely purchase the Kef Sub when back in the UK, I'm sure that it would just improve the sound in the larger room (or not?).
Macros, are you some kind of tool? If you don't understand what I've said, just ask. Absolutely no need to be a clown about it.
Isn't it clear enough from my posts that I say I'm new to this and no audiophile? You just trawling through posts to find someone you can WUM? Sad, sad wee man.
Not sure I am in the same boat but I am looking for some active speakers for a office space on my desk (but have room to put larger bookshelves on stands). My order for some Triangle Elara in Blue got lost and when I went to hear some in a regular white finish the hiss was quite audible to me. Anyways I am thinking about the Acoustic Energy AE1, Navis or Dynaudio XEO 10 speakers. I can get a pair of Navis at 60% off open box but I am a bit worried they are too big for nearfield. My main issue though without being able to hear any is do any of them have an audible hiss, it just drives me nuts (Kanto Tuk had this issue for me also). Also I have had a lot of concussions and find bright speakers really fatiguing.
My desk is 63” wide and 33” depth. I sit just over 1m away ears from where the tweeter would be. I could put it on stands and have them further away fairly easily, my only issue was the tweeter would be somewhat lower then my ear height when I was taking measurements (3-4” lower)How far do you sit and how big is your desk? Best bet is to make a shortlist and order 2/3 speakers from places with a good return policy
The dealer said the. Navis are pristine so I am a little shocked at the price also. I also found a set of Xeo 20 for 50% off new with desk stands and wireless hub, but I kind of want to try speakers off my desk for once in my life now that I have a larger room. I really struggle with finding speaker stands I think are stable and will reach my sitting height, I do have iso acoustic aperta stands also that probably can help angle any speaker. The Navis might be the best choice being the tallest speaker. Im sure all 3 choices I have are quality though. My biggest issue is always how bright speakers are going to be. I’ve suffered about 8 concussions playing hockey in my 20s to early 30s and just some speakers completely aggregate my headaches.If you can put the speakers on the ends of the desk then they should be decently far apart. If you need to you can either get taller stands or prop your stands up a little. You can buy those cheap desk isolator pads and put that on the stand which will gain you an inch or two height as well
I've not heard the navis but 60% off anything sounds like a good deal. As long as the company selling them has a fair returns policy they're worth a try. Not sure why they would be 60% off for an open box though, unless they're battered or ex demo
Haha well one of the options is buried on the sellers site, they don't even list that they carry the speaker brand but a manual search happened to show it up still (so I am not totally sure it's available but it says in stock).I don't know how you manage to find all these good deals haha.
Perhaps a stand like this will work for you? Studio Monitor Speaker Stand, Single at Gear4music
They adjust to multiple heights and it says the info in the description.
You won't be able to figure out if they'll be bright without reading a review or hearing them, that's why it's good to buy from someone with a good return policy. Most speaker shops understand people want to audition their speakers. It's also good to hear a few different speakers at a price point so you know if you're paying too much for a speaker or not.
If you're using your speakers on your PC, you may be able to use EQ to help solve your problems, it may take a bit of fiddling to get it right though
Yes I am in Canada. I don’t really want to spend a ton either on stands although I guess I don’t mind investing in something I think is going to be solid and visually fit my area. I did watch a YouTube reviewer who put command strips on the bottoms of speakers and top plate and it seemed to at least make the speakers less wobbly. Mostly I finally have my computer in a room away from an open area so speaker stands are an option. I did go to the local music store to look at some “studio” gear they had and there were stands in the same idea as what you posted. Also I tried listening to a few studio monitors. Was actually really impressed with the Adam speakers they had on demo even just going BT from my phone.I think kids will be able to push over pretty much any speaker stand if they really want to. Even some heavier stands can be pushed over, depends how strong they are I suppose. The gear4music stand say it has a heavy base plate but not sure how heavy it actually is. I take it you're in Canada though?
I've never been one to believe in expensive stands, they seem a bit on the pricey side and I'd rather spend the extra on the speakers myself haha.
Here's another example, seems more solid
Behringer SM5002 Monitor Stand, Pair at Gear4music
Behringer SM5002 Monitor Stand, Pair at Gear4musicwww.gear4music.com
If I were really worried I'd just use my desk
Waiting on a quote for the AE1. I ruled out the Navis, I just think they are too big and a 1 year warranty on the amplifier component vs 5 with Acoustic Energy or Adam ( really liked them). I really loved AMT tweeters when I had Martin Logan speakers a few years ago.Yeah, command strips would help if you're worried about speakers toppling over. Even blu tac would help stop them wobbling.
Studio monitors offer great value for money but you still get people who think they don't sound good because they are monitors for some reason. They're just speakers at the end of the day, not some strange tool. I had some Adam a7x once and I really loved those tweeters.
I thought as the products you are looking at are 50/60% off, they should be competitive with studio monitors in terms of value.
Monitors are also great because its easy to get the bigger sizes like 8", which provide a huge upgrade over smaller hifi speakers. I have some m-audio bx8 which I picked up for about £230 new and they have better bass than my brother's ls50s, which just sound boomy in comparison. Can't beat physics
Did you mean small in a good way? I am not looking for a ton of bass honestly, it's for playing in the evening with music or some Elite Dangerous gaming on my PC really. The odd day I get home from work and get an hour to crank the volume.The AE1 seem pretty small, you will probably get the sort of bass you get from most small speakers (distorted).
Which adams are you looking at? I agree about the AMT tweeters. My favourite tweeters I've heard have been ribbons but I've not heard a lot of expensive domes, maybe they bridge the gap.
Nice thing about monitors is that you can use a balanced input so you get no interference. When I was using my laptop with WiFi, it kept causing noise on my speakers which was completely stopped by switching to balances cables.
Ahh, yeah I found a couple bigger speakers I had in my old setup overpowering that were larger (Still off my desk but into my old room which was also a living room) so a smaller bookshelf is ok for me in this setup. I mean I love my Dali Menuet's even in my new larger room for TV still (And I am sure that room would be great with much bigger speakers, one day when kids are older).I mean small in a bad way. I'm sure the enclosure size is more ideal though haha. I understand there is a need for small speakers for most people though. I will always do my best to squeeze in a bigger speaker. They go lower, and play cleaner with less distortion (generally).
I'd say stick to the Adam t7v if it'll fit in your space as they're the ones you heard. I imagine the t5v will be good performers too. I've not heard the t series, only the ax which I liked a lot.
I've not heard an aluminium dome for a while so I can't say. I know some metal domes can have certain distortion areas which can hurt your ears. Thinking back to my tannoy dc6 which always seem to give me an earache, I think they were titanium. This is a generalisation though, not all of them will necessarily have issues, even made from the same material.
Yeah balanced inputs are great. The cables are fairly priced too. Once you use them you'll think what is the point in RCA. You can have pretty much any cable length you want and not worry about interference
So I settled on the Adam A5X, just felt like it was a nice size on my desk for now. I do like I can power off at the front also. I thought I wouldn't need volume control on the front but one thing is I am finding is I can't really fine tune the volume as precise as I like. My fiio k5 pro is being used as a pre amp at the moment but I still get a ground loop with it on RCA. The Adam speakers either seem quiet or loud, I have to set the volume at about 9 o clock on the adam speakers but barely turning the volume on my Fiio makes it go quite loud. Last time I had active speakers with Yamaha HS8 and a NAD D1050 I feel like I had to turn the volume knob forever to get volume lol.It's up to you what size speaker you decide on. I prefer to get a bigger speaker and just eq down some bass if it's too much for the room.
I would say home demo some speakers before deciding finally what to do because they can sound very different in your room to the store you are purchasing from. Monitors like the Adam have bass and/or treble controls to help dial in the sound a bit too.
Let me know how you get on
Have you tried the Behringer HD400? It's only £18 on Amazon and you can return it if it doesn't work.So I settled on the Adam A5X, just felt like it was a nice size on my desk for now. I do like I can power off at the front also. I thought I wouldn't need volume control on the front but one thing is I am finding is I can't really fine tune the volume as precise as I like. My fiio k5 pro is being used as a pre amp at the moment but I still get a ground loop with it on RCA. The Adam speakers either seem quiet or loud, I have to set the volume at about 9 o clock on the adam speakers but barely turning the volume on my Fiio makes it go quite loud. Last time I had active speakers with Yamaha HS8 and a NAD D1050 I feel like I had to turn the volume knob forever to get volume lol.