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A step up from my Yamaha dspa1

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by Rip, Sep 26, 2004.

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  1. Rip

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    Hi, I have a yamaha dspa1 amp, its a graet bit of kit with loads of power that i can never really get to use, but i am thinking of upgrading to a new amp or reciever with all the latest stuff on. I know the latest amps/recievers have 6.1 or 7.1 channels, but that aside, what amp/reciever would be a good step up from my dspa1 in terms of power & fetures ect. In otherwords, i dont want to buy a new amp/reciever to find out its not as good as my dspa1, with the only diffrence being extra channel support. Thanks :thumbsup:
     
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    I would like to know as well? how does the Yam 750 for example compare for sound with the A1.

    Dave.
     
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    Come on, there must be someone out there that knows somthing ? Hi Dave, do you have a DSPA1 as well m8 ?
     
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    Amps that will probably sound better than yours are Yamaha DSPZ9, Pioneer Vsaax10ai, All pretty expensive. But worth trying the Arcam AVR300 as it is the amplifier quality that you would have trouble matching with yamaha,pioneer etc..
    The DSPAX750 has a good processor and all the new features but only has the amplifiers you would expect for £500 not a patch on the DSPA1!
     
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    This was/is exactly my dilemma.
    I was thinking of changing my DSP-A1 because I want something smaller, but after talking to several specialist AV shops the general opinion was that unless you are going to change it for its current equivalent (i.e. spending £1500 plus) you will definitely take a hit on performance.
    They all said the DSP-A1 is a top amp with excellent steering and amplification and unless you want the newer EX/Prologic II modes (which I don’t) then don’t bother to change it.
    I guess I’ll have to find room for it in my new living room.
     
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    Thanks guys, thats pretty much what i wanted to know, i would love a Yamaha Z9, but theres no way i can afford it atm. Looks like my dspa1 will have to last me a little bit longer before i upgrade then as i only just splashed out on a Sony HS20 PJ, oh well.........
     
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    Hi Rip,

    I have the Z9 and it is an awsome amp loads of power and just never seems to run out of steam, and it has video upsampling as a bonus.
    I highly recommend it :smashin:

    John :)
     
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    Hi recruit, you lucky bugger you, have you had it long ? how much of its power do you manage to use ? I would love to get one, & i could as well if it was not for a family-kids, a mortgage , a loan ect :( . I see you also have M&K speakers, i have been looking at them lately, but the center speaker being the same size & shape as the left & right would make it hard for me to place, are you happy with them ? :thumbsup:
     
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    Hi Rip,

    I have had the Z9 about 8 months or so around about when it came out, I demoed the Pioneer AX10 after haveing the AX5 and also the Denon A1SRA but the Yamaha really did inpress me, no sorry let me rephrase that it blew me away it just had so much control over the speakers it was driveing.
    The M&K speakers i have not had that long but i feel they are a really good match with the Z9 as it is a nice warm sounding amp and the M&K speakers can lean towards the bright side.
    I have managed to go quite loud with the amp and it is quite scary :eek:
    But even at low volumes it still impresses :cool:
    I don't think i will be changeing my av amp for quite some time ;)

    John :)
     
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    If only the Yamaha Z9 was'nt so ugly, I would have had one.
    As it was I thought the Denon A1SRA was reasonable looking (not gun metal grey), and although not quite as warm sounding as the Yamaha is still almost as good.

    Personally I would advise anyone considering moving up from the yamaha DSP-A1 (like I did), to try and find a Denon A1SRA for a sensible price. I suspect at the moment if you try hard enough you should find it for £1,000 less than the yamaha Z9.
    The A1SRA not as flexible as the Z9/DSP-A1 and I do miss the equalizer on the centre channel to control my M&K centre, but it is very, very good at music, and it comes in gold.

    Go and audition the A1SRA, you should be surprised. I've listened to many amps including the Pioneer AX10 and not thought the difference worth the extra money until the Denon. My main problem at the moment is that the living room is far too small to show what it can really do. I've seen it used at the MCR show in front of 100+ people and it was superb.

    Steve :)
     
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    I had an A1 and now own a Z9 (barely a week old - still tweaking !)

    I tried an Arcam AVR300 for a couple of weeks & it was pretty poor in comparison to my A1. I think the above comments are correct in that to upgrade an A1 you're looking at a serious amount of dosh (trust me, I listened to loads of amps & pre-power combos !).

    If you like the Yamaha sound & own an A1 then the Z9 is the natural choice, albeit an expensive one. My main reasons for upgrading my A1 were to upconvert video signals & act as a switcher on component to PJ & plasma and also to go 7.1 whilst retaining the Yammy sound which I like. Still running it in, but the Z9 is an amazing beast ! Video features are great as a reasonable convenience factor without the expense of a REAL vid processor, whilst the sound is all yamaha with the added power of a nuclear explosion !! This thing is scary !!

    Cheers,

    Andy

    P.s. - still keeping my A1 for the living room when we get a dedicated room built as it is still an awesome amp and has stood the test of time rather well !
     
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    Hi Andy,

    I have had my Z9 for some time now and i am still playing around with it there are so many features :cool:
    I am glad you are happy with it like i am, the sound is just so powerful and it's built like a tank so i am sure it will last a long time :smashin:

    John :)
     
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    You lot must either have very well paid jobs , or a very understanding missus that dont mind going without new carpets, washing machine, clothes, food ect......... :D
     
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    Hi Rip,

    It must be understanding missus cos i've never had a well paid job :laugh:

    John :)
     
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    Upgrading from an A1? bloody luxury lad ;)
    I am lookin to upgrade my venerable DSP-A3090 to something a bit more modern now that I'm getting a plasma - I want component switching and a few other more recent features.
    The Arcam AVR300 has been recommended to me, so I'm trying to find a sensible price on that.
    Although I like my yam sound I preferred my old Denon 3020...but not seen any denon recommendations lately around the £1k mark.....

    *sigh* spending money is sooo hard ;)
     
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    I'm about to upgrade my "old" DSP-A1 which I believe to have been in the first batch to actually hit these shores (it's some seven years old now IIRC).

    Anyway - I have an Arcam AVR300 at home at the moment on two week loan from Audio-T, it goes back at the weekend as I have a demo there of the DSP-Z9 too.

    The Arcam is a really nice unit - initially it doesn't impress on demo but over the last two weks I've really got used to it - the video path through the amp is certainly cleaner than my A1's ... I had never considered the A1 to introduce much noise or smearing but it is kinda obvious on TiVo's menus now (I currently run everything s-video). The audio decoding is also quite a lot more precise than on the A1 - it's easier to isolate exactly where sounds are supposed to be placed. The A1 is certainly more of a whoop-ass rollercoaster ride of an amp but the AVR300 is far happier at playing music than the DSP-A1 ever has been ... I even at one point had it running into a set of KEF 203 References (£3k) and it did sound simply gorgeous.

    Obviously looking forward to the DSP-Z9 demo to see what that extra £3k buys you but I have a funny feeling that I'll be going with the Pioneer AX10i-S ... mainly because it should be a gnats nadger away from the Z9 in the performance stakes and I have the possibility to get a latest spec AX10i-S (with WMA decoding etc.) for not a lot more than an AVR300. :D

    Phil
     

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