A good JVC Projector for about £1000?

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  1. Blacksky

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    Hello, I've been after a JVC projector (or something just as good) for a while now after seeing one demoed. I'd love one of the latest ones but on my budget that really isn't happening. Could anyone give me any tips on the best projector I can get for about £1000? I don't mind second-hand but I really want something that is going to look awesome. Can anyone help?
     
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    Welcome to the Forum. :)

    Have you checked the forum classifieds?
     
  3. Blacksky

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    Thanks. :3

    I did have a look on there but there was nothing in my price-range. I had a look on ebay and Amazon too, but I realised that I didn't know enough about JVC model numbers to tell if I was getting a good deal or not. Is there a list anywhere?
     
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    If you are looking for a JVC and have around a thousand pounds there are four models that will stradle that price point.

    JVC HD350 originally £3k finally discontinued about 18 months ago you can pick them up for £650-850.

    JVC HD750 higher end model to the 350 are around £900 used

    JVC HD950 around £1k

    JVC X3 first 3D pj from JVC again about £3k new and second hand about £1100

    JVC X30 replaced X3 discontinued last Oct last available new for £1799 so used about £1400.

    So depending how flexible your budget is you will be either getting a 2D machine for up to £1k or a 3D if you can stretch a bit further.
     
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    Also looking around this price used and no real interest in 3d
    Which model would you recommend. I would be prepared to pay any of the prices listed
     
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    Personally I think the 3D models are the best way to go if you can afford it irrespective of whether you want 3D or not.The X range give just about the best 2D pictures you can get at any price.

    I think the X range were a good step up from the HD range and offer more accurate colours out of the box along with a brighter more dynamic image.

    The HD750 does have a full CMS (colour management system) which means you can have it calibrated for a more accurate colur gamut, me and a friend did a shootout between a HD750/X30 we both preferred the X30.

    The HD range had trouble with colour block failures which is an expensive repair if you have to pay for it, there would be no warranties with any used JVC's as they don't support the original warranty (3 yrs) with the second or subsequent owners.

    Other than that the HD range are still a fine projector and offer excellent performance for the money at £700-1000.
     
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    Just to add to what Keith's said the early X series had lamp dimming issues so make sure the lamp is the later '003' version otherwise 500 hours life is typical for the original lamp.

    No point worrying about a model with CMS if you aren't going to get it calibrated as you can't set it up by eye (you can buy your own calibration equipment but it'll be about a third of your budget in anycase).

    So far we haven't heard of any cases of optical block failure on the X series, so IMHO if you can find enough to get an X model (lamp comments above still apply) then I think it's a less risky used purchase. An X3 or X30 have as much contrast as the higher model HD750 or HD950, better motion and despite the lack ofCMS they have a reasonably accurate colour mode anyway.
     
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    Ok so I'm guessing that an X30 would be my best choice if I can stretch to it? Is that the 'superior parts' version of the X3 that I've heard about?

    I'm having a hard time finding one but some people say that the DLA-RS45 is the same model, is that true?
     
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    No I think you're mixing the X30 up with the higher end models such as the X90 (also X9) which is made from the same optical block, etc, but they keep the highest yield blocks for the X90/X9 for best contrast.

    The X30 is the newer version of the X3 which includes lens memory and some other tweaks over the X3.

    The RS45 is the same as the X30, the RS40 is the same as the X3. Only difference is that the RS models have (tacky IMHO) gold surround to the lens rather than silver of the X series. Originally the RS models were supplied by JVC's 'Professional' division so might have had different warranty (irelevent now of course).
     
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    0k then. Before I commit to this though, are there any other brands that might be of the same quality but cheaper?
     
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    IMHO 'NO' but you might find a similar priced Sony as an alternative, something like a Sony VW85ES might be worth looking out for.
     
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    Optoma 82?

    Or are JVC generally better?
     
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    Optoma 82 is a very nice pj and can be had for around £900-1000, it is sharper than the JVC's, black levels are good but not as good as JVC it also has better ANSI contrast which in rooms that are not as dark as batcaves will offer a slightly more contrasty image to the JVC.

    But: they are DLP so if rainbows are an issue will be no good for you, they are noisier and have very limited lens shift compared to the JVC. Also JVC's have powered zoom/focus so of the two the JVC wins as far as I am concerned.

    If rainbows are not an issue the 82 is worth considering, one bonus is Optoma do allow warranty transfer if you have a copy of the original receipt.
     
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    What do you mean by rainbows? Are you talking colour distortion?
     
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    Well, I do like really black blacks and I don't like the sound of rainbows, but is it worth the extra cost to get an X30? The cheapest I have found is about £1600.
     
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    If you can get one with a warranty for £1600 it would be a good buy, if it's used from a private individual it won't have a JVC warranty (it may have a 3rd party warranty though) and therefore at £1600 is a bit overpriced IMV.

    When they were last on sale at Richers they were £1799 with their 5 yr warranty and free extra bulb so you can see that £1600 is not that cheap if used.
     
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    Would the Optoma hd87 be worth the premium over the HD82?
    Thanks
     
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    Depends how much of a premium, £200 yes £400+ probably not but get a demo of a DLP first.

    Also be careful with the 87 as it comes with a mid throw lens so make sure you have the throw to get the size screen you want. The short throw lens is a £500 option IIRC.
     
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    Bear in mind the hd87 is alot noisier compared to the Jvc machines so if it is going to be very close to your seating position it may be an issue.

    I compared the hd87 with the x30. The sharpness and the punch on the hd87 is fantastic. The jvc is better with the blacks though.
     
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    Thanks again
    No problem with DLP. I currently use a Optoma HD65.
    I am looking to throw a 84 inch wide image from 10 to 15 feet
    Noise may be an issue as the projector is likely to be overhead. Having said that I tolerate the HD65 and that seems quite noisy.
     
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    The 82 or 87 should be ok in your room then and will be a good step up from the HD65. In fact I would look to up the screen size or move closer to the screen as with a 1080p projector you will have far more resolution to enable a larger screen/closer viewing distance.
     
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    Interesting comment on seating position.
    I could go to 108 inch wide but assumed this would be too big for the room. We sit at 12 feet from the screen
     
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    As long as you are watching 1080p material on a 1080p projector 100"-108" wide would be ok for viewing from 12ft.

    I have a 92" wide (108" diagonal) screen and view from 8-9ft distance and it's sharp enough with 1080p material, standard dvd is no good though as it is too soft.
     
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    Anyone got a JVC HD350/750/950 they are thinking about selling?
     
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    I have had a look for the Optoma hd87 but the only two I can find for sale are one on ebay for £1600 and one on this site for nearly £3000. I think if I'm going to pay that much I would go with the JVC.
     
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    I got a ex demo JVC HD750 for £1100 with 4 hours on the bulb and a 1 year JVC Warranty when I took the projector out of the box it was in mint condition.

    When I spoke to the dealer he had other ex demo JVC projectors including HD350 and HD750 models also with a 1 year warranty from JVC.
     
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    Where was that from?
     
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    The company does not advertise on this site so I will send you a PM.
     
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    It's going to cost a lot to get the projector and screen and I'm starting to wonder if it might not be better or cheaper to get a big TV....can anyone tell me what they think?
     

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