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A good budget Sub ?

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by stevedster, Jan 27, 2005.

  1. stevedster

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    After a good sub for part of my home cinema system, will most likely be connected to a Pioneer VSX-D814 with Limit surrounds. Anyone know any decent active subs that are around the £100(ish) mark ?

    Let me know thanks guys.
     
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    The short answer is no. The long answer......you might get lucky in the classifieds if someone has a Paradigm PDR10 for sale. The PDR10 is a good movie sub, but sucks with music.

    £100, brand new, a good sub doesn't exist at that price point in my humble opinion.
     
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    hmmm, what about this one thats in RS at the mo....

    Mordaunt Short 308 AVANT for £149.95

    is this not good?
     
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    The 308 is a great little sub, depending of what volumes you'll be listening at.

    I've just upgraded from a 308 because at high volumes it does lose composure. Having said that, if you keep the 'sub' volume down to about a third, and the amp volume at say -35db, the sub should cope with whatever you throw at it.

    In my opinion, it's sound quality is very good for a cheap sub.

    You will of course get a better sub if you go second hand. If you're willing to spend £150, you may get something like a 309 second hand, which is a cracking sub.
     
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    If you can sneak it up to £188 the Velodyne CHT8 is being sold at this price in a one off powerbuy and you may find it difficult to match that level of performance for the price elsewhere.

    Details here
     
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    At -35db I doubt whether anything is being thrown anywhere as that is a very low level indeed.
     
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    if -35db is a "very low level indeed", then surely say -70db, would be IMPOSSIBLE to hear?

    I think it could be time for an ear syringe mate
     
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    Different amps having different readouts sometimes, I think the yamahas differ slightly in the way they display their volume level for example.
     
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    Kaz is right. There is no standard here for displaying the gain on an amplifier.

    The best thing to do is just assume it's all taken from a uniform 100dB reading and consider this reference.

    Thus -35dB would be 35dB below 100dB (65dB) which is fairly quiet but I quite often listen at this level at night.

    70dB would be 30dB below 100dB (using the previous scale, this would be -30dB) and is what I would consider a "normal" listening level for those who don't own detached houses.

    The outright values are only of any use if your system has been calibrated properly using an SPL meter as speakers all have different amounts of "loudness" for a given signal from the amplifier. :)
     
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    to return to the original question of the thread, BK Electronics still have the Ruark Vita 50 for £150, since you're prepared to look up to that figure. Their web site is http://www.bkelec.com/new/Special_Offers/sp8.htm . People have had good things to say about this sub, but not having heard it - or the Velodyne - I cannot comment on their relative merits.

    Alternatively, Richer Sounds' Trade Counter had a couple of MS 309s in Cherry for £99 but their site does not appear to reflect what is available very accurately, from my personal experience. A bit of ringing around would be required.
     
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    cheers might pop down to RS soon and ask what they have, dont eltax do some fairly good subs?
     
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    IMHO the answer is still NO. They make some subs that make a few booms and distort but nothing else worth thinking about.

    Realistically it would be better you wait untill you have £200-£220 and get either :

    2nd hand MS 309 or cheap from RS (good luck :zonked: ) or new £215 ish.
    Ruark vita 100 from bkelec.
    Velo 8 or preferabley the 10 on this special price

    Just my opinion though. Save more money and get something decent than buying tat that you want ot upgrade a week later. :suicide:
     
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    If you are desperate to get a sub without saving a few more pennies, I would definately agree with 'theo cupier' and go for the Ruark Vita 50 from BK. Although not as powerful as some, this sub will produce better sound quality than anything else at this price.

    But I would also recommend saving that bit extra for a very respectable subwoofer. Maybe be the Ruark Vita 100.
     

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