A decent flashgun for off-camera flash

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  1. stevemc81

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    I'd like to experiment with an off-camera flash but I'm reluctant to spend £200+ on something like a Canon 430EX II. Can anyone recommend any 3rd party manufacturer flashguns that have similar features for less cash?

    Ideally I'd want to spend no more than about £100 and I need it to be able to fire wirelessly using my Canon 650D. And if it had a swiveling head that would also be good. Oh and hopefully it would be quite easy to use!

    I don't ask for much, do I?
     
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    Nissin Di466 Canon Fit Has Been Developed For Digital Slr Cameras With The Latest TTL Flash Control Technology

    Here............and does the job nicely

    £75

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    Yongnuo Yn560III for less than £50, or Yn565EX for less than £90 on the bay. Super bits of kit for the money.
     
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    Why not get a 2nd hand Canon 430EX II?
     
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    The yongnuos mentioned are good. I have 2 along with my 430. You just need a wireless trigger which are about £10 on Amazon.

    Plenty powerful enough and I've got some good shots with mine
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions, I'll need to do a wee bit of reading on these now.

    Snerkler, I did look into than but even second-hand on fleabay I struggled to find a decent example going for less than £150.
     
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    This.
     
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    Quick (and probably daft) question about the Yongnuo flashguns.

    My camera (Canon 650D) supposedly has a wireless flash trigger built-in to the body so will it be able to fire these flashes without me having to buy anything else?
     
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    +100 on the yongnuos Use them with the YN-622s for full wireless control from camera. support groups too so multi flash on multi settings is easy to set up.
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    I can't test as don't have wireless built in, but according to Yongnuo Speedlite YN-560 II Flash for Canon EOS 650D

    So yes*

    *don't take my word for it[/quote][/quote]
     
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    As above, I don't know for sure if the wireless trigger built into the 650D will fire the Yongnuos, since my 5D3 doesn't have wireless built-in, so I can't test. But a pair of RF-603s is less than £25, so worst case you could get these and still come in under budget.
     
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    I am in the same boat as you Steve - same camera and same desire to take the first step into off camera flash. I have heard the Yongnuos are highly recommended for the price so I think that will be the way I go.

    Iceman - the Amazon page you linked to has reviews stating that this model cannot be used off camera? Do you know otherwise?

    Cheers
     
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    Hope you don't mind piggy-backing off the same thread, but my question's essentially the same but for a Canon 7D. Will one of those Yongnuos give me off-camera flash OK, or do I need to step up to the Nissin Di 866 mkII I currently have in my Amazon wishlist? I'd rather not spend quite that much, as it's about £15 over my original top budget, but would if I have to.
     
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    Yes to both of you :)

    This video (although using a Canon 430EX speedlite) shows how to use it on a 650D and mentions (at around 1:16 in) that it can also be done on a 7D.

    I was ready to buy the YN560iii, but have now decided that the YN565EX (which does have ETTL capabilities) is a better bet for a still small outlay.

    Cheers :smashin:
     
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    Thanks - that's a whole mess of money saved...
     
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    Could you just explain this a little further. Can you say have 4 set up in various positions and control the power/zoom on each of them from the camera?
     
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    Short =YES but only three groups

    Long = Canon allow three different groups: A, B, and C You can from within the camera tell each flash what group it is in.

    Very long answer, read here My New and Improved Canon Wireless Flash Tutorial!

    The YN-622 has on buttons on it to easy tell it what group it belongs to
     
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    But I could have say:

    Group A - 1 key light
    Group B - 1 fill light
    Group C - 2 for lighting the background

    All off camera and in manual mode and change the power/zoom of the three different groups from the camera?

    I'll look at that link, cheers
     
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    Just realised I didn't actually link the video :facepalm:

    Video :smashin:
     
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    I don't see why it wouldn't trigger the Yongnuo flashes. The pop up flash on the 650D is what triggers the external flash guns. So you might want to get some triggers anyway. I have studio lights so it's a bit of a moot thing for me.
     
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    I did lots of research about these flashes as I am in the same boat. I hope that the 565EX will as I just got one for my 600D, AFAIK it will only work as a slave but will fire from the camera without any additional kit.

    Got mine off Amazon for £72 delivered (well £72.99), should be arriving today so hopefully i'll be able to confirm later today.

    OK it arrived today, just as the seller predicted, and yup you can deffo trigger it wirelessly using a 600D. The product itself is well built, has a lot of functions (which I am going to have to learn) works in ETTL II on camera and from a first view off camera too.
     
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    Cheers for that Peeej, I am hoping to pick one of these up very soon. Do let us know how you get on with your new bit of kit in the meantime :smashin:
     

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