9830 Resolutions

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  1. orange21

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    Hello,

    Now that we know from Philips that their latest 37/42PF9830 LCDs will come with a 1920x1080 panel,

    (http://www2.philips.de/ifa/leaflets/42PF9830_eng.pdf)

    I wonder whether:

    - it is possible to drive this LCD at its native resolution (1920x1080) from a PC (contrary to what is said in the datasheet)

    - the PixelPlus 2 HD processor nevertheless downscales the picture to WXGA (1366x768) for processing and then upconverts to the panel resolution thereby loosing the resolution gain of this panel?

    or is the description in this document not up-to-date:

    http://www2.philips.de/ifa/backgrounder/Backgrounder_Pixel_Plus_2_HD_english.doc

    Thanks
     
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    I'm not sure that first link is accurate when it says the native resolution is 1920x1080, I might be wrong though. It would be nice but I think the PQ with sources at that resolution will be very good even with a native resolution of 1366x768 due to Pixel Plus 2 HD etc.
     
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    The 42" will be 1920x1080. The 37" will not be.
     
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    Both the 37 and the 42 are 1920x1080 only the 32 will have 1366x768.
     
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    am i correct in thinking that for viewing most material were going to be better off with the 32''?

    Since most HD we will be watching is going to be 720p, and this is closer to 768p than 1080p (both scaled via interpolation).
    If i watch my 9986 which is 1366x768, i notice especially with consoles that interpolation creates a lot more motion blur and softens the image too much.

    Is it really wise to go for panels that are going to leave LCD screens even further away from 1:1 matching than they currently are?

    Or will PP2HD, be the answer to filling these extra pixels with accurate algorythymic data rather than just softening images to the messy quality we best achieve on our current SD hardware?
     
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    Blu Ray discs - in a few articles have said they will carry a full 1920 x 1080 progressive picture and may also contain a 720p/1080i of a film on the same disc.

    So a panel that can display 1080p (Like the 42-9830) will be the most future proof.


    Gazzer
     
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    I would worry about 1080p on Blu Ray... As Hollywood masters the films in this format at shows them at this resolution in theaters I could imagine that they would keep this quality for themselves. I think they will rather release 1080i meterial?

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    Well - 1080p is just the standard at the moment - in Japan companies are already working/have demo versions of Hi-Def TV Version 2 and this has a horizontal resolution of 6000 pixels.

    Gazzer
     
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    But in the UK at least, support for 1080p will be limited.
    Xbox360 will be 1080i at best, ps3 probably wont be using its 1080p resolution much since it will strain the gfx card a hell of a lot. To get round this they would have to optimise the game and spend extra money on making sure it runs as closely as possible to the speed of the 720p resolution, but they wouldnt bother in most cases since only a minority of people will own 1080p TVs. I mean they cost about £2k minumum now, so if we are lucky in a years time they will be £1500 for a small one.

    Sky and ntl will be stuck in 1080i limits, and since most of us have built up good DVD collections already are we really going to fork out £20+ for HD material?
    I really feel the technology is going to race ahead of the game here, which will have its benefits but we will have to wait for the practicality to catch up.
     
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    It has ever been thus. :lesson:
     

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