Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by Embarker, Nov 16, 2004.
now up on here for £150 due in in 1-3 days
what are the possibilities for making these cards quiet?
a quote from quiet pc
"Zalman are currently working on a quiet solution for the nVidia's 6800/6600 series, which should be available during November"
So that looks promising.
Just need to find out how it stacks up against its pci-e cousin.
Mind you, so long as the WMV support is still there and works unlike the bigger brother 6800, it's on my shopping list now.
Er, that's not what I've just been told when I e-mailed them:
I've just sent him a reply asking him if what the web page says about the 1-3 days on the XFX and 4-7 on the Leadtek are no longer correct.
Dabs have a PNY 6600GT and an XFX one, both AGP.
PNY quoted as "2 on order, 1-2 days"
This is the reply I just got from Overclockers regarding the 1-3 and 4-7 day info:
So, they're basically meaningless apparently.
Well i got a Nvidia 6800gt from them on friday 5th and the bloody thing has Pci Express power cable input.
Contacted them by email 7 times and all i can get from them after telling me that they have the cable is they are awaiting supplies.
Forget they telephone systems they must be ran by one person
I'm always wary of Overclockers, I've seen poor comments of their customer service before .. but tell me, what do you mean 'PCI-e power cable', this is something I don't know about these hybrid PCI-e-morphed-AGP cards.
Komplett have the Gainward AGP w/dual DVI marked for 22/11/2004
Well the Nvidia 6800 gt series seems to have two molex connectors on the back of the graphics card the same type as a dvd cdrom or hard drive 4 pins suppling 12vdc 5 vdc and two grounds
the pci express vintage i have has a six pin molex plug which supplies power to the graphics card through 6 pins as in photo
photo on this link
Oh sh*t, I didn't realise that PCI-e cards had yet another damned 'standard' plug type. .. I see that reviewer also got a card without that adapter cable.
read a review here between the pci-e and AGP version.
Good link, thanks Embarker.
A few more reviews, all seemingly based on the same reference board:
Presumably some NDA must have expired.
Don't hold your breath chaps .. the XFX at Overclocker's has now gone to 4-7 days and the price is up by £10 so now it's the same as the Leadtek.
So this looks like a no brainer upgrade for anyone using a 9800pro or lower radeom especially if you are a Theatertek 2 owner.
Looks like my current mobo just got a stay of execution.
Now who is stocking these beauties
The AGP versions were apparently only officially 'announced' on Tuesday of this week and I'd expect early shipments found their way to the US first, they usually do. Certainly my 9700 Pro is soon to be put out to pasture.
how would such a card improve my system?
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
Powercolour Radeon 9600 256mb
Using TT for DVDs, Dscaler for TV and WMP10 for HD vids (Dscaler the most).
Which version of TT? Simply upgrading from 1 to 2 will improve things due to the use of the NVidia decoders.
The 6600 reportedly has better MPEG decoding and on-board 3:2 pulldown .. have a read of this thread on AVS for some details. However, those benefits will not happen if you use post-processing like FFDSHOW because that forces all decoding to be done in software. This will leave only the difference between VMR and Overlay rendering, ATI is better for Overlay, NVidia for VMR .. as to which is 'better' I really have very little understanding except that most of the major 'tweakers' on AVS seem to use VMR.
thanks once again Robin.
I'm using TT1.5, but DVD watching aside (i've dallied with FFdshow but have always been so impressed with TT1.5 straight, I stopped fiddlin) how might it improve on the weakest link (as I see it) getting the best results from Sweetspot/Dscaler?
6600GT available at last !
XFX 6600GT Agp available now from www.scan.co.uk £139 + VAT. I ordered mine this morning so should have it with me by noon tomorrow (Saturday).
I hope this card is as good as the hype for HTPC (Theatertek 2), games, and WM9 Hd dvd acceleration.
Kaz: if you're running in hardware mode then the 6600GT is reportedly better at MPEG decoding than ATIs, it also does 3:2 pulldown if you're viewing NTSC at 60hz which. So even with TT 1.5 and the Sonic decoders the 6600 will improve PQ, though of course by how much depends on many factors such as display resolution, screen size .. age of the eyes viewing it.
Nice to see that Scan have it but thats a heavy price premium over the pci-e version, it covers the cost of a new mobo
Seems to be a common factor in the US and here, retailers are bumping the price because they know there's a big demand for them.
Scan seem to no longer have any stock. (did they really to start with?)
Which is good, as I HATE buying things off them.
They definitely did.
Mine arrived this morning at 8.45 am.
Changing the video card meant changing my powerstrip and projector (Nec 9pg crt) settings as previous card was a Radeon 9600 Pro.
Initial impressions are that the Nvidia card produces a sharper more crisp image than the older Radeon. Small text in particular is very clearly defined.
So that was their one stock item then.
Tell me, how loud is the fan on that thing? Sadly Zalman haven't announced any support for the AGP version of the 6600 for their water-cooling system so I'm concerned about fan noise and wonder was the XFX is like.
It is by no means silent but is fairly quiet. The Radeon was completely silent as I had fitted a Zalman heatpipe cooling system to it. I was a litte worried that the noise from the Nvida card could be intrusive having read some horror stories about the noise some of the 6800 cards made. My processor is cooled by a Zalman "Flower" and Zalman fan. Currently the noise level of the Nvidia fan is no more than that of the Zalman fan. I expect as the fan gets older it may get a little louder but by then I would hope that a third party cooling solution would be available. I have modified my projector to reduce the fan noise as well. The current noise level of the system (projector and HTPC) is pretty good.
I agree John but being an early adopter always comes at a price particularly with PC related components. The card comes with three games which helps sweeten the blow very slightly.
Cheers Alan, I can put up with an amount of 'whoosh' from a fan, I find the buzzing that some can exhibit at higher speeds more annoying. Since the AGP version is not the same layout as that of the PCI-e variant I'm worried that Zalman may not support it if they think there's only a short-term limited market for it .. after all, they've still not got support for the 6800 cards yet.
Which player software are you using, and are you using DXVA or software decoding?
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