50mph speed limits creeping in

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  1. HMHB

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    It seems that just about every road leading out of the town I live in now has a 50mph limit, is this happening where you live too? Every time some nobhead has a stupid accident they seem to see it as an excuse to lower the limit.
     
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    The dual-carriageway bypass recently built near me has a 40MPH limit. I can only assume that is to try and keep down noise for nearby residents, because otherwise there seems no reason for it not to be NSL. In fact, it's slightly bizarre coming from a smooth, wide, sweeping road (limit 40MPH), and turning onto a bumpy, narrow, windy country lane (limit 60MPH)!
     
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    No

    Either 40 or 70
     
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    Yep, there are three main roads near to me that have been reduced from the national speed limit to 50mph.
     
  5. HMHB

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    I'm not sure if I made it clear, but these 50 limits are all the way to the next town, not just on the approach into/out of town.
     
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    Yes same here mate some roads have been but not all but I suppose it is only a matter of time. If it is not bad enough you then get the Mr 'I drive at 10 below the limit regardless (except in towns and villages when he drives 10 over) who you have to try and overtake.

    It will soon be time to go back to the horse and cart.
     
  7. HMHB

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    Yes those people annoy the hell out of me too, it's as if their car can only go at one bloody speed.
     
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    At the M4/M5 junnction near Bristol they are putting traffic management in which will use 50MPH - it is long overdue, when it gets busy the traffic becomes awful, lots of start/stop driving etc..
     
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    Very much the case in Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire on rural A-and B-Roads.

    Sort of makes sense as many people see the NSL sign as a "no limit" sign and drive way beyond their abilities which means that rural roads are the scene of many fatalities (trees are very nasty when you hit them).

    A 50 limit has the effect of reducing speeds along these roads and most likely the frequency and severity of crashes.

    These limits are often on roads popular with bikers and which consequently have a high fatality rate.
     
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    Not around here they don't. Every morning and afternoon I drive down a dead straight road over a mile long, with perfect visibility and wide lanes with no other roads that join it (it has roundabouts either end).

    It's a NSL road and signed as such, but at least 80% of people who drive on there stick rigidly to 50mph.

    That road is my pet hate, you can sometimes overtake safely but it depends how much traffic is coming the other way, so often you're stuck at 50 or even worse, 40. The only other option is a road that's so potholed it cost me over £500 last year for smashed suspension parts when a spring snapped.

    Speed limits overall are definitely coming down, and with the amount of useless drivers around it's getting harder to make decent progress when there's any traffic about at all.
     
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    Not noticed in my area, Herts / London.

    You should move to the north east, pretty much NSL between most towns / villages :D
     
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    A couple of years ago most of the NSL roads in Warwickshire were made 50mph.
     
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    Many of the high speed crashes occur outside of commuting hours when it's not busy and people tend to go much faster at those times (especially younger drivers and bikers out for a Sunday blast), and consequently crashes tend to be more frequent and more serious. That's why the limits are being reduced.
     
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    the NSL should be dropped to 50mph
     
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    Why?
    Where?
    I'm assuming you don't mean motorways, when everyone and their granny (apart from BRAKE) agree it should be raised to 80mph.
    So you must mean dual carriageways and A roads.
    Why?
     
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    I don't agree with motorways being 80mph - why should they?
     
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    Are you a regular driver yourself? Do you have to drive long distances on a regular basis?
     
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    A few reasons

    1. 70 was decided a long time ago
    2. The majority ignore it anyway
    3. Studies show raising the limit to 80 wouldn't lead to people taking that as carte Blanche to do 90, they are more likely just to adhere to 80.
     
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    Yes, I drive. Currently I drive mainly around town and country roads, but will be on motorways/dual carriageways at least twice a week. Why?
     
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    Mainland Europe have 80mph (or more in the case of Germany and Italy) limits on motorways, but a lot of the cars still cruise along at 60-70.

    Just because the limit is 80mph, doesn't mean you have to do 80, you can do 50, 56, 60, etc, just don't sit in the middle lane whilst doing it. Move left.

    Don't see why, then conditions permit, the limit on motorways can't be 90mph.
     
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    Don't agree to the last bit I am afriad. People openly talk about/do 100mph+ currently on the motorways/dual carriageways, hell, I see enough myself when sticking at 70mph - why would an 80mph suddenly make Mr BMW/AUDI driver think "You know what, I was going to drive at 100mph today because I need to be somewhere, but because they have increased the limit to 80mph that is what I will now do instead."
     
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    It's just that your sweeping statements had the air of someone who doesn't drive so was just checking :)
     
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    Back before most cars could do 70mph, and they had crap brakes.
     
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    No, no, no - I am not one of those funts :laugh:
     
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    Maybe I was just looking for a discussion on here, I don't know - apologies for being annoying. The speed limits are coming down though in the country side and on some dual carriageways around me - which is annoying. Nothing worse than being stuck behind a "40mph driver" (they will do 40 in a 30 zone but also 40 in a 50/60 zone)

    But I honestly don't think the speed limit needs to be raised to 80mph. It won't solve anything, it might even raise the number of deaths and will cost us more to get anywhere.
     
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    The thing that annoys me is my local newspaper which seems to campaign to have speed limits reduced and also for speed cameras every time there's a fatal accident.

    90% of these fatal accidents have been through "stupid young youth" style driving far too fast and under the influence. No speed limit decrease will stop these people from going at this speed and unless you have a speed camera every few yards you can't monitor them. They will still drive drunk and still overtake when not appropriate and still drive too fast for the conditions of the road.

    It's the knee-jerk reaction of the local press that really winds me up and the fact that they quite often get the limit reduced. So the people who have used those roads for decades without problems have to suffer a lower limit because of bad driving from a select few. If only we could rely on them just killing themselves then I'd say "let them carry on, we're better off without them".
     
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    1. The excuse of car technology has improved yet accidents still happen

    2). Because it is not enforced enough

    3) Studies also show that increasing the speed limit would mean an increase in casualties
     
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    Studies always depend on who is doing the study and what ulterior motive they have for doing the study, they will come out with different results depending on what they want to find.
     
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    But I believe the discussion surrounding an 80mph limit involved a zero tolerance, or far stricter, approach with anyone breaking it.
    I know I'd be happy to adhere to an 80mph limit, whereas I don't stick to 70mph.
     
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    Same here, it should be far easier to police as well.
     

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