50 MB broadband v. HD channels

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  1. Boostrail

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    We are now treated to VM advertising for 50MB broadband on this forum.

    However as I am not into downloading movies and can never find any real HD rather than short clips ( please advise links otherwise) I really cannot see the attraction of going to 50MB. I find 20MB more than adequate even when both son and wife are on at the same time.

    So the extra 30MB is on the same fibre optic / cable as TV and equates to 2 HD channels (ITVHD +C4HD?)

    So what say you Broadband or HDTV? (or is my technology wrong?)
     
  2. Badger0-0

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    I doubt there's any advantage to be had then.

    I've seen 9Gb files as torrents, but they aren't going to be HD.
    There is the added advantage of better upload speed, but again, it isn't going to benefit you.

    I'm in two minds whether to go for it myself.

    20Mb costs me £37 atm.
    But I'm seeing £36 for the 50Mb when coupled to a VM phone job :confused:
    That's a no-brainer and will be on the phone if I can't get that deal (I already have VIP).

    It's still HDTV, by a mile.
    But not for long, imo.
    There is a recent thread asking the same sort of thing and it's highly debateable either way, again imo.
     
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    It takes a lot more headend equipment to support IPTV. The question is will Virgin invest in that?
     
  4. Boostrail

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    Not sure you got what I'm getting at Badger0-0 but thanks for your response anyway.

    As I understand it digital band width on cable is totally interchangeable between TV service and broadband so the difference between 20MB broadband and 50 MB broadband could be re-allocated to 2 HD TV channels?

    Which would you prefer?
     
  5. Badger0-0

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    I suspect they will, as imo it's the way things are going to go.
    The fact that they see the way forward as "on demand" backs this up, imo.

    I don't see IPTV being the answer though.

    I'm not au fait with that stuff, so might be talking rubbish, but I do see better compression and useage of bandwidth far in advance of what we have now, in a very short time.
    I've said it before, but 14k was state of the art in, what? 1994?
    15 years and we're thousands of times faster.

    It's only a matter of time, imo.
     
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    Ah, I see what you mean :smashin:

    As much as I want HD to advance, I want BB to advance faster, for reasons in my previous post :)
     
  7. Boostrail

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    Methinks you are further down the glass than me! Going to get a refill!
     
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    Well i have asked about 50mb and if it will be traffic managed if not could i have it in writing before i upgrade.
    Heres the answer i got: Our 50mg broadband service is currently not traffic managed
     
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    Yup, Thats correct, there is no traffic managment on the 50MB package. Its really amazing they are doing this, although I do think they will limit it in the future....
     
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    I'll probably go for the 50MB when i can.
    But then i do hammer my connection after 9PM ;)

    what's putting me off is that while i can see that VM will limit or cap this service we have no idea to what extent. I would hate to be just in to a 12 month contract only to find they cap it way over the top (a bit like they do now).
    TBH i cant see why they would but then we all know how VM likes to rip us off once they get us hooked :devil:
     
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    As I have no legal knowledge at all so my question is, if they start capping during your contract would you not legally be able to downgrade anyway as they have changed the terms?:rolleyes:
     
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    unlikely as most t&c's have the 'this agreement includes any amendments to the t&c's which we will issue you with'.......which means they can actually get away with quite a lot....so long as they still afford you 50Mb the majority of the day, bingo, they are legal.

    sucks, but true.....

    Not 100% sure but I believe you can downgrade a product after 6 months in to a contract, but you still cant cancel until the full contract expires. Only if they cannot provide you with a qualifiable service (you only get 1Mb for example would be considered unqualifiable due to their claims) can you anul the contract, but you must have given them enough chance to sort the problem first.
     

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