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4K wedding shooting

MartinH32

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Further to a previous thread I want to keep this separate as it contains different questions on the same subject.

So I'm looking to shooting weddings. Currently I'm a wedding photographer (a pretty good one too people tell me, been doing it full time 9 years - <Mod edit: commercial link removed> if anyone is interested) and I use D750's. After quite a bit of research I'm thinking about moving away from using these and keeping everything 4k.

I discussed a locked off camera (probably GoPro 5 now) to go along with my Panasonic HC-X1. I'm also needing a third camera and possibly thinking the Panasonic G80 may be a good cost effective option with the 12-60mm lens. The G5 is just too expensive as I'm also looking for a gimbal (possibly the Zhiyun Crane) to go along with it as a portable walkabout option. This also gives me the option to expand when I can.

So again, thoughts anyone? I don't have an endless budget and I'm trying to keep the Go Pro / G85 and gimbal all around the £1200 - £1400 if I can.
 
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chrishull3

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Further to a previous thread I want to keep this separate as it contains different questions on the same subject.

So I'm looking to shooting weddings. Currently I'm a wedding photographer (a pretty good one too people tell me, been doing it full time 9 years - www.mhillaryphotography.co.uk if anyone is interested) and I use D750's. After quite a bit of research I'm thinking about moving away from using these and keeping everything 4k.

I discussed a locked off camera (probably GoPro 5 now) to go along with my Panasonic HC-X1. I'm also needing a third camera and possibly thinking the Panasonic G80 may be a good cost effective option with the 12-60mm lens. The G5 is just too expensive as I'm also looking for a gimbal (possibly the Zhiyun Crane) to go along with it as a portable walkabout option. This also gives me the option to expand when I can.

So again, thoughts anyone? I don't have an endless budget and I'm trying to keep the Go Pro / G85 and gimbal all around the £1200 - £1400 if I can.
The Pana FZ1000 has been replaced by the even better FZ2000 but the FZ1000 is a very good 4K camera i had one for several years i dont anymore




Quality has moved on in 34 years
The FZ1000 takes very good 4K video & stills
 
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12harry

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Video is a whole new can of worms IMHO.... So, it might be better to start with the GoPro ( Or Look-alikes, as suggested on the other Thread.) . . . . and leave spending until you are sure what is that's "missing".
-OR- What would make life easier, for the same effort, etc.

It's very easy to spend money since ads will make it all seem so darn easy.
Not sure, but I suspect EFFORT goes up with the square of the Number of Cameras - so three could be 9-times more-work than just one.

You don't say if you have an experienced crew . . . IMHO the first improvement should be the Audio.... since churches and reception areas are notorious for echoes and noises which "we" can ignore, but the microphone won't . . . as it isn't selective; Therefore, good positioning is necessary to make audio as crisp as possible.
A direct feed from the church Audio may be possible, but that means buying a digital Recorder ( basic Zoom ~£70 / Maplin?)
The Audio isn't a problem for amateurs ( like me) who are making a "Personal-View" - and where the viewers are not to fazed by much . . . but if you are receiving a Fee, I guess all that changes .

Good luck with yr choices....
 

Mysticpuma

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Don't forget too, 4K is a pain to edit unless you have a beast of a computer! I edit it and while it is easy to do usual cuts and fades, any other 'effects' will grind your timeline to a halt, especially with multiple tracks.
I appreciate that 4K is the in thing now but I would suggest learning to edit via a proxy so that you create the edits with a low resolution version of the file and then output the edit with the original version, that will save you a ton of time.

12Harry also makes a good point about the audio. Audio is really worth getting your head around especially if the couple want their vows recorded. A common trick is to set up a remote recorder with the microphone hidden in the flowers or around the alter. Video is significantly more intense than stills but ultimately just as much fun.

Cheers, MP
 

MartinH32

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Don't forget too, 4K is a pain to edit unless you have a beast of a computer! I edit it and while it is easy to do usual cuts and fades, any other 'effects' will grind your timeline to a halt, especially with multiple tracks.
I appreciate that 4K is the in thing now but I would suggest learning to edit via a proxy so that you create the edits with a low resolution version of the file and then output the edit with the original version, that will save you a ton of time.

12Harry also makes a good point about the audio. Audio is really worth getting your head around especially if the couple want their vows recorded. A common trick is to set up a remote recorder with the microphone hidden in the flowers or around the alter. Video is significantly more intense than stills but ultimately just as much fun.

Cheers, MP
Cheers MP, audio is all in hand, with various card recorders and lav mics, also the Rode pro mic. Editing by proxy sounds like a great idea - thanks!

The only thing letting down the FZ2000 is lack of interchangeable lenses which I'd like to keep due to flexibility.
 

12harry

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[ DYOR ]. The FZ200 is an excellent bridge camera, IMHO.
Also, the lack of interchangeable lens keeps the price low and allows built-in ND filters - hardly ever available on "Budget" lenses ( nor Pro-ones I think).
One hugely important feature of "bridge cameras" is that there is NO-RISK of dirt landing on the sensor. In my experience you cannot see tiny specs using the LCD Screen, so it's only later-on this is discovered.
For specialist / wild-nature the interchangeable lens is essential - provided you can spend as much on the lens as the body . . . .maybe much more if a large aperture is needed.
I don't think this is needed for "Weddings" where a good solid picture will bring-back floods of memories for many years to come....

One particular benefit of Go-Pros for the "Aisle-shots" is that they can be strapped to the pillars (etc.). being almost no weight at all. Something like a foam-mat will spread any load and provide excellent grip - since it will take up any slack, should the strap expand due to a rise in temperature as a result of the number of visiting bodies. Some adjustment both Horiz and Vert would be extra benefit as suggested elsewhere.... along with easy removal for card/battery change.

4K Editing using "Proxy" is all but de-facto nowadays.
+ As other poster suggested it will take a long time to Render, using the 4K files . . . . but I suspect this may be the trigger for Video Editing to go "Cloud-based" so you pay a subscription ( like Adobe ) for the basic Suite and a little extra for any "Special effects" based on the additional Render-time for that section.
However, for "Weddings" I suspect many Brides ( AND their mothers), would prefer the lower resolution of HD, with a bit of Gaussian Blur over their faces.... about 10% should do the trick.
 

MartinH32

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[ DYOR ]. The FZ200 is an excellent bridge camera, IMHO.
Also, the lack of interchangeable lens keeps the price low and allows built-in ND filters - hardly ever available on "Budget" lenses ( nor Pro-ones I think).
One hugely important feature of "bridge cameras" is that there is NO-RISK of dirt landing on the sensor. In my experience you cannot see tiny specs using the LCD Screen, so it's only later-on this is discovered.
For specialist / wild-nature the interchangeable lens is essential - provided you can spend as much on the lens as the body . . . .maybe much more if a large aperture is needed.
I don't think this is needed for "Weddings" where a good solid picture will bring-back floods of memories for many years to come....

One particular benefit of Go-Pros for the "Aisle-shots" is that they can be strapped to the pillars (etc.). being almost no weight at all. Something like a foam-mat will spread any load and provide excellent grip - since it will take up any slack, should the strap expand due to a rise in temperature as a result of the number of visiting bodies. Some adjustment both Horiz and Vert would be extra benefit as suggested elsewhere.... along with easy removal for card/battery change.

4K Editing using "Proxy" is all but de-facto nowadays.
+ As other poster suggested it will take a long time to Render, using the 4K files . . . . but I suspect this may be the trigger for Video Editing to go "Cloud-based" so you pay a subscription ( like Adobe ) for the basic Suite and a little extra for any "Special effects" based on the additional Render-time for that section.
However, for "Weddings" I suspect many Brides ( AND their mothers), would prefer the lower resolution of HD, with a bit of Gaussian Blur over their faces.... about 10% should do the trick.
Appreciate what you are saying about a fixed lens but as I shoot weddings for a living I don't want to go back to loosing the flexibility that interchangeable lenses offer. They also offer higher quality glass, lower chromatic aberrations (you would hope) and the flexibility over complete aperture control. I appreciate it keeps the price low, but to a point, it isn't an issue.

I currently pay Adobe for their CC suite with Lightroom and Photoshop, it's a steal at less than a tenner a month (although Lightroom needs some serious speeding), doesn't include Premier though and Resolve looks like a good option at the moment.
 

12harry

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Apologies...I still have the mind-set of an impecunious teenager. However, for the price...it could be an excellent back-up . . . except Mfrs like to make each model different . . . to sting the Competition . . . yet it kills any notion of "Loyalty" at the same time, IMHO.

Therefore for back-up purposes a body of the same-model is really a safer bet.

However, your Threads here have been about a new leaf... Video . . . and 4K at that. . . . . So, maybe that means ditching the D750 for the likes of GoPro ( for the Aisle ) and something with good stabaliser for vid. . . . .that was my thought - a separate "tool-kit" as it were, for the Video customers.
I don't know -but expect Wedding Guests are content to be arranged for a still-shot..... but it would be very difficult to re-enact a fleeting-glance, without continuity and other pros assisting.

The D750 is currently £2K with a modest Zoom . . . I suspect the FZ2000 would give a good showing at nearly a third the price with a 20x zoom. It may show difference in low-light....but vids are very forgiving as our attention is drawn to the brightest moving part - shadows are largely ignored... which is why spending "£ots" on colour-grading the shadows appears futile to my mind . . .although useful for scene-matching, if one has the skills.


I'll be very interested in reading your take on Davinci Resolve . . . I'm trying to upgrade a discarded PC for 64-bit operation. (( Sadly my 4G RAM is below the min-spec. and upgrading DDR2 is ...
EDIT: impossible as MBO limit is 4G. )).
Being Professional means you have the financial ability to keep ahead..... whereas, we try to follow.

Cheers.
 
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andjarnic

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4K Editing is not as difficult as many make it out to be. The biggest pain point in editing 4K files from cameras that record i in MP4/AVCHD is that a slower computer will have a heck of a time uncompressing it while you try to view/edit it on the timeline. To avoid this, though it may add a bit more time initially, you can transcode the video into an editing format. This means much larger files, but also much faster editing workflow. On Windows I use a program called Convert V4, though it is basically a fancy UI that sits on top of the free FFMPEG program. Storage is cheap.. or cheaper anyway. So transcoding first, then using it to edit is a great way to use a somewhat slower machine, though I do recommend a faster machine as well.

As someone else said, video is a whole nother can of worms. It does require more CPU, GPU, RAM and storage. If you plan to keep backups, your best bet is a 5+ drive NAS setup with as big of HDs as you can put in it (currently 10TB drives are available). As well, I would consider a USB 3.0/3.1 (Gen 2) external 1 or 2 drive bay dock that you can hot swap SSDs and IDEs into at will. I even use a cheap $10 SATA3 to USB3 cable that allows me to use the 2.5" SSD drives outside of my machine.

If you really want to record good quality video to begin with, shooting on something like the Sony AX100 with HDMI out to an Atomos Ninja Inferno or Flame, or step up to the GH5 and record 10bit 4:2:2 out of it to the Atomos, which allows you to record right to DNxHR or ProRes, the perfect editing formats with near lossless quality. Yes.. again the files are large, but you can avoid the transcoding time AND you get to acquire much better source quality video to start off with.. avoiding the compression most cameras impose. Nothing worse to me than taking already compressed footage, editing it and rendering it back out which compresses again. Then if you share on youtube..it compresses again. It is very evident in fast moving shots where things look pixelated and the loss of color fidelity sucks as well.

The downside to this move is the cost. Storage, faster system, better quality cameras, more storage (for backup, etc), lenses, etc..the list goes on. Its not cheap..but it is rewarding.

BTW, cameras like BlackMagic and even the Canon MK4 can record RAW video. From RAW you can pull still images (in case you dont know) that look as good as if you shot it with a still camera. The benefit though, is that you get 30 to 60 or more of these per second.. so you have a far better chance at getting a great picture that a still camera would be hard pressed to capture unless your timing was just lucky enough to be at the right moment. Even a still shot from the Sony AX53 ($850 consumer camera) with HDMI out to the Atomos ($795 7" monitor and SSD recorder at ProRes/DNxHR quality) can look very very good.
 

andjarnic

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Oh yah.. I use Davinci Resolve 14 (still in beta). It is an incredibly powerful editing suite that rivals Premiere and FCP, and works on all 3 platforms (though it is limited on Linux without some tweaks given the huge variety of linux flavors out there). The free version is quite powerful, but for $300 (lowered from their bit out of range $1000 as of version 14), you get a number of nice features, including team collaboration (not of interest to most but useful none the less), external farm rendering (if you have multiple machines laying around that can be used), and a number of nice FX. I am also a subscriber of the Photoshop/Lightroom bundle..that is indeed a steal. I switched to REsolve a couple years ago primarily because Adobe didnt offer a competitive cost effective pricing for Premiere, Audition, and After Effects for those of us that are hobbyists. If my living was made off of this I would have paid the $75 a month for the full suite. As it is not, I switched. Now.. I wouldnt go back. Resolve is a beast! It is very powerful, yet so similar to other packages. Version 14 adds a powerful audio engine in it, and Resolve is the defacto go to coloring tool for the big budget movies too. So you get all of this in a single app.. no exporting to different apps and reimporting. Very very nice. Well worth a look especially if you are cringing a bit at paying for the full suite of Adobe products. Adobe would do good to offer something like $5 per app per month deal as I know a lot of people who have now switched to Resolve.. partly because of their pricing, but now that Resolve is every bit as capable and in many ways more so than Premiere and FCP, there isnt a reason to bother with them. After Effects is tough to replace if you need FX stuff, but the BlackMagic Fusion product is also very powerful and used in many movies as well.. and is also free!
 

12harry

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andjarnic - for a "novice member" you are considerably ahead of me, in PC-Tech and Cash...er, IMHO .....
+ I was hoping someone might be able to tell me if Hit-Film ( &/or Resolve) will work with just 4Gb* (64-bit ), since I read on HitFilm's website the minimum is 8Gb . . . but I suspect, to comply with "Windows' Standards" it will actually "work" with 4G . . . perhaps rather slowly- during "Renders" - but so long as it keeps going, I don't care.
I'd be trying the software prior to making the leap to 4K camcorder and ( presumably )... Upping to a new PC - if all friends can't be persuaded to do some 4K Editing, on my behalf.

You insight to the more-expensive realms of Editing are most useful . . . but since I cannot afford that level of Luxury, it must forever remain "entertaining reading".
Marginally I find many folk that make excellent movies - have an ability to take better movies - so they are starting with "better material" - Odd that as I try to remember to take all the extra pieces.... yet often find I will have missed something when I get round to the somewhat duller process of "Editing"
- maybe that's part of the issue . . . I should turn-over my Stuff to someone that's keen to Edit, but can't get out to film the neighbourhood.

Cheers.




* in reality, I'm hoping someone WITH 4G can say for certain........ since opinions are not quite as good as Real.
+ My new MBO cannot address more that 4G - which is already installed . . . so I have to "start again" meaning I lose the quad-processor because it's Socket 775, which is obsolete.
The PC was given to me and represents an improvement over the PC I use for HD; because I will use Win 7 as 64-bit.... so I should be able to download / try these free software programs...... to check "Compatibility and my Work-ability".
I've added an SSD and HDD + tidied-up the inside after a thorough dust-out cleaning.
 

andjarnic

Established Member
Thank you.. I think? :D I have an insane passion for this stuff. In fact, I am going to start some sort of blog/vlog soon around my knoweldge/experience/desires of all things tech. I probably piss some off with my "I know everything" style of answering questions, which I definitely do not, but I love to chat tech with like minded folk like yourself. I should have joined this forum years ago. :D

I have yet to use HitFilms.. it looks cool. I was using Adobe After Effects with the Creative COW tutorials. Forget some of the names, but they had some great tutorials that were fun to walk through and apply to my own stuff. HitFilms looks very cool for what it is too. I am now trying to switch to Fusion (Fusion 9 just came out and it looks impressive) because it syncs with Resolve and is again free and very powerful.

As for a machine.. I suspect you already know how to build them and know prices, parts etc. I am looking to build a Threadripper system in the next few months or so... waiting on some more benchmarks and parts to come out before I make the plunge. I suspect the 16core/32thread with 64GB RAM, couple NVMe SSD drives for boot/temp editing, and dual GPUs will run near $3K. But.. you can build a Ryzen system for around $1000 now that will put up a fight against a 10 core Xeon system which until recently were the go to workstation for video editors in pro shops. With the right editing codec (e.g. DNxHR, CinemaDNG, ProRes, etc) it can work with 4K video quite easily. It is at least 2x faster than what I have now and my system works with 4K no problem. So I suspect if you can muster a grand or so, you could build a worthy editing rig... add in the free Resolve (unless you already own/pay for Premiere or whatever) and you can tear through editing jobs!
 

DocJackal

Prominent Member
Personally, I've found I have trouble with working in 4K within Premier, no matter what system I try it on. Always seems to crash out on me constantly.

I haven't given any of the DaVinci stuff a try (can't face learning yet another unless I really have to), but i'm sure it's fine with enough hardware.

Avid is my go-to for 4K and HDR. Really solid system that performs fantastically with it. Plus, proper workflows throughout... But probably not the most welcoming to the new user.
 

12harry

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Whilst HitFilm does good "Particles" ( like explosions, etc ) it appears to have some strength with Croma-Key . . . however, I've not got a 64-bit PC to try it on, so can't confirm.
Davinci is the Go-To for colour grading, I understand. This really implies you are using a camera that gives a "flat" image, covering a wide-range of brightness ( e.g BlackMagic ). This is also a 64-bit program and with HItFilm I understand it does needs more RAM, probably because of the calculations needed to move the particles about.

Colour-grading is something that Pro's and Would-be Pro's like . . . the various complaints about Poldark ( being too gloomy ), may be a result of too much Grading.
When you are Grading on a professional monitor, in an Edit-Room, it may be difficult to imagine what it will look like domestically with the sun on the windows and a TV that is in some factory Pre-Set colour mode.
Our Remotes have Up-Down for Audio, but to adjust the vision (ideally a combined Brightness/contrast with a predetermined curve ), appears to be beyond designers.
 

DocJackal

Prominent Member
When you are Grading on a professional monitor, in an Edit-Room, it may be difficult to imagine what it will look like domestically with the sun on the windows...

Well there are no windows for a start!

Unfortunately it's impossible to grade for every set, so you just have to aim for what you think is best and hope people have their TV's setup correctly.

Audio is slightly easier, as there tends to be a pass at the end on regular TV speakers.

When reviewing HDR programmes, I have had a non-HDR (but still UHD) set to switch on to check specific shots on, but that's certainly rare, and I've only used it a handfull of times.
 

Kevo

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It's not worth the hassle shooting in 4K, stick to HD 1080 50p it still looks great compared to 4K.
I have the FZ2000 and the 4K is great but takes tons of batteries for a day's shoot, looks awful when pan or tilting (as it only does 25 and 30p which and you'll get flicker on indoor lighting with 30p).
Close ups of faces will not look very flattering. I suppose you could soften it in post, especially on the bride). It really does show 'warts and all' and even more !

I have edited 4K 30 with Edius Pro with no proxy files required. It's fine with a little judder but not a ssmooth as HD obviously plus the file sizes are huge and rendering time much longer (better with Intel i7 quick sync).

I recently did a wedding video in Manchester cathedral and so glad I did it in 1080 50p. The picture and sound came out great despite the huge size of the cathedral and usual lack of light. I used a Sennheiser mke 300 shotgun mic and audio was crystal clear.
 

12harry

Distinguished Member
This is the first "Avoid 4K" comment I've read. . . . are you quite sure, or is that concerning the output from one camcorder, perhaps?
I can understand that for a low-def viewing, it would be a pointless exercise - although the abilty to Pan-Crop might be handy.
Certainly 4K uses more memory, but I wouldn't expect any change in power consumption to be more than "marginal"... is there Mfr evidence to confirm yr comment, which reads like it's very noticeable...?

Being able to get short-distance sound is good - as there's nothing like an echo to spoil the Audio-clarity. However, I've been told that shotguns don't like being "indoors" - Perhaps the Cathedral
could be considered as "outdoors" due to having no close reflections... I have three and never use them - two being gifts!

Cheers.
 

MartinH32

Prominent Member
Thanks everyone, some interesting views and comments. After a lot of thought and the fact that my still cameras are ready for changing (I change every three years) I decided to make the jump to Sony and have two Sony A9's for the main shooting duties and a GoPro for the locked off shots. A Rode shotgun mic and several Zoom recorders and lav mics.
 

chrishull3

Prominent Member
It's not worth the hassle shooting in 4K, stick to HD 1080 50p it still looks great compared to 4K.
I have the FZ2000 and the 4K is great but takes tons of batteries for a day's shoot, looks awful when pan or tilting (as it only does 25 and 30p which and you'll get flicker on indoor lighting with 30p).
Close ups of faces will not look very flattering. I suppose you could soften it in post, especially on the bride). It really does show 'warts and all' and even more !

I have edited 4K 30 with Edius Pro with no proxy files required. It's fine with a little judder but not a ssmooth as HD obviously plus the file sizes are huge and rendering time much longer (better with Intel i7 quick sync).

I recently did a wedding video in Manchester cathedral and so glad I did it in 1080 50p. The picture and sound came out great despite the huge size of the cathedral and usual lack of light. I used a Sennheiser mke 300 shotgun mic and audio was crystal clear.
Clearly there is something wrong with your kit,none of the results you describe should happen , the FZ2000 is the replacement for the FZ1000 i used to have one and experienced no problems like you describe or with any other 4K camera or camcorder.
 

Kevo

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Clearly there is something wrong with your kit,none of the results you describe should happen , the FZ2000 is the replacement for the FZ1000 i used to have one and experienced no problems like you describe or with any other 4K camera or camcorder.
I have used the FZ2000 in 4k mode extensively and it DOES go through the standard batteries very quickly. I go through 3 or 4 in less than a day. I only get about 20 mins of footage on each battery and that's using the viewfinder rather than the LCD.

You most certainly will get some judder when panning in 25 or 30 FPS. That's a fact with any camera, you even see it in cinema films at 24fps. It helps if you pan really slowly. I guess I'm too used to the smoothness of 50fps with HD.

Close ups on 4k even look unflattering on films, they show every pore!

Having said all that I do like 4k pq and sound with my fz2000 as it suits my usual type of filming which is travel. However I wouldn't use it to film a wedding!
 

12harry

Distinguished Member
Thanks Kevo, that's a great camera it seems . . . but what's the power consumption in HD-mode?

One reason for buying a "Camcorder" is the attention to Battery-life, e.g by selling ever-larger batteries . . or having an external input - so do I guess this camera won't allow this and you really don't like changing batteries . . that would be an issue for me, although Mfrs usually "gloss-over" and downsides. With Cameras they stick to poor Battery/Memory access as it's a mindset thingy IMHO.
I read that this model is available with "Cashback" - but as I'm paying more in the first place the catch is that some folks won't get paid.. Definitely a reason for me to delay purchase as they must think we are stupid... Park Cameras don't know the zoom reaches 480mm . . . . oh dear.

cheers.
 

chrishull3

Prominent Member
I have used the FZ2000 in 4k mode extensively and it DOES go through the standard batteries very quickly. I go through 3 or 4 in less than a day. I only get about 20 mins of footage on each battery and that's using the viewfinder rather than the LCD.

You most certainly will get some judder when panning in 25 or 30 FPS. That's a fact with any camera, you even see it in cinema films at 24fps. It helps if you pan really slowly. I guess I'm too used to the smoothness of 50fps with HD.

Close ups on 4k even look unflattering on films, they show every pore!

Having said all that I do like 4k pq and sound with my fz2000 as it suits my usual type of filming which is travel. However I wouldn't use it to film a wedding!
My FZ1000 managed on average 2hrs of filming per battery and i have a friend whos FZ2000 gets well over 1/2hrs per battery so i dont why know yours only gives 20m i would get it checked,yes fast panning and zooming will give motion blur i avoid it if at all possible and now my 4K cameras have 50P but 4K 50P uses a lot more GB space than 25P.My GH5 goes hours on one battery and this review Panasonic Lumix FZ2000 review: Premium superzoom premier league - Pocket-lint
gives the FZ2000 a decent battery life.Good luck with the weddings.
 
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DocJackal

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Out of interest OP, how are you delivering your masters?

Sounds like you've made a good decision on your purchases, good job!

Are you still after a gimble? If you can find somewhere to try one, have a go with an Osmo. Really awesome for smooth, off-speed (if at HD) gimble moves - money on screen as we say.
 
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Kevo

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My FZ1000 managed on average 2hrs of filming per battery and i have a friend whos FZ2000 gets well over 1/2hrs per battery so i dont why know yours only gives 20m i would get it checked,yes fast panning and zooming will give motion blur i avoid it if at all possible and now my 4K cameras have 50P but 4K 50P uses a lot more GB space than 25P.My GH5 goes hours on one battery and this review Panasonic Lumix FZ2000 review: Premium superzoom premier league - Pocket-lint
gives the FZ2000 a decent battery life.Good luck with the weddings.

2 hours of filming! That's a lot. I get nowhere near that and that's with the official battery. Is that actual footage record time 2hrs or including also 'general use'?
 

John7

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Thanks everyone, some interesting views and comments. After a lot of thought and the fact that my still cameras are ready for changing (I change every three years) I decided to make the jump to Sony and have two Sony A9's for the main shooting duties and a GoPro for the locked off shots. A Rode shotgun mic and several Zoom recorders and lav mics.

So, you've nuked your original budget with a ten fold increase? Way to go man!
 

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