Hello all, Like many who view this forum im sure, im a long time thinker, first time poster, and find this forum a vital resource for info. Been waiting for opportunity to buy a plasma for ages, and have just brought first house so its gonna be first purchase as soon as i move in (I can sit and sleep on floor if i have too!) Basically I want prob a 42/43", but might go crazy and go 50". I love the way the pioneer looks, but understand that wont produce as good picture as the Pana PHD8 with scaler will, and these are my choices at mo. I.e gorgrous looking screen and have pretty good pic, or fairly average looking screen with scaler and amazing picture. An alternative option woudl be pio and scaler, and would if poss get me the looks of the pio, and maybe a better pic. Im sure ive read somewhere that you cannot bypass internal processing (or something clever sounding like that) on the pioneer, so scalers wont work, is that correct? Would i see significant improvement with scaler on pio and maybe get rid/help with poss judder issue? I would prob buy the VisionHDP at £1300 odd if i was going to go that route i think maybe, though i know very little about them yet. On a side issue and while im posting, the new yamaha rx-v2600 reciever is out soon, and that has a scaler built in so i believe, will this actually be any good do you think and save me a fortune on getting the scaler, or am i just dreaming that i can save myself some money for once?? Thanks all for any responses, im sure you will be hearing alot more from me over next few weeks as i try and understand all this jargon etc! Regards Paul ..hmm, after posting this i realise maybe im not a first time poster...im sure i havent posted before! wierd!