40 years of sg Pepper

[lisa burrell]

Its fantastic that that everyone nearly of all ages is aware of this album.

We have it in the house and it gets played more than once or twice a year.

I see there's a project going on Via Goggle news to commemorate this Album.

I personally like The Beatles and doing a lot of listening from this period. Like

To tell you why. Its noticeable that in this decade people actually tried to

sing. the voices were distinctive. I love the guitars and the guitar sound

of that period and the playing. I was listening to a short guitar break where

the guitar and piano played in octave together. To give the guitar a bigger

sound on the break I guess. with the aid of a book and reading lots on

the net. i made my way through a few Beatle records of dads and listen

for Different guitars Like john Lennon's Epiphone doing ticket to ride intro. The use

of twelve string guitars. I did not realise was so abundant. Hearing the

Rickenbacker going through its paces. Is there anyone else love listening

at this level of interest. I think its brilliant this makes the period for me.

Imagine instead of paintings you bought guitars like those Guilds those Gretch

those Rickenbacker's and you hung them on the wall. Imagine you new the

History of these machines like you get with a car a service history if you like

and they were well loved and performed on all

these classic and not so classic tunes we all can enjoy. The enjoyment

The instruments have brought. There beautiful too.



It was pointed out to me that today no one sings any more like some of

yours and my heroes anymore. There's no Robert Plants and the like. Also

at the other end of the spectrum there's no one singing like That guy

Who was in the charts again Tony Christi. On a Documentary they were

saying no one singing like Levi stubs of the Four Tops it must hurt to sing like

that. Someone somewhere else i was reading Said there's not the call for

people to sing like that anymore. Made me asked the question. Is the same

scenario going to happen to Guitar players i hope not. To Finnish of in Family

discussions. aunts uncle dad mum it was said back in the Beatle period and after

everyone new who the drummers name the bass players name in bands. They asked

dose anyone care who the drummer is now. What's happened to all that. I

Had to have a think. On behalf of the youth today I could not come up

with the answer to that.


anyway 40years wow want to read more must say thanks to for bringing me this

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz/s/1003/1003874_stars_join_beatles_tribute.html

related item to thanks to http://reunionsessions.tripod.com/al/faabsessions/1995d.html


[You know how i go of the subject sometimes lol this posting was going to be about killer whales eating sharks. HA HA .. Got sidetracked .. Glad I did .. ]

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[quarry2006]

Why do you say that it was noticeable in this decade that people actually tried to sing?

Are we completely ignoring Frank Sinatra then?

It's a good album. They were a god band.

 

[Dazed87]

I've no idea why people harp on about this particular album so much. It's far from their best as far as I'm concerned.

 

[lisa burrell]

Hi

No Not at all I ‘m ignoring frank Sinatra I what I am saying is there is a shortage of singers and great voices like Frank’s too. The list is endless. Sorry if I have not included your personal favourite.

Yes pepper is not everyone cup of ovaltine I agree. But that’s the beauty of it . No one makes you buy or even listen to it. Like there revolver period, I hated that. . I love listening to Roll over Beethoven. I just think that was the most superb 12 bar playing on record I have ever heard Must be John playing that.


BTW

Music such a big thing in our house. We Love playing it talking about it. Be cause it spans generations. We have a superb huge CD collection a lot inherited. From mum dads to aunts Even Granny’s parrrrrrrrrp (Fetch the sandpaper and bleach ) Dads Brother was playing some Gerry and the pacemakers CD to us. To show us what a superb guitar player that chap was. I was very impressed with jambalaya. Again that Toe tapping 12 bar. That Gretch Tennessean on the cover wow . Another great Guitar for the wall.

This whole sixties thing. There is a hiccup well a few . But there are other days, and you start upsetting people because of personal preferences. But The shadows I must mention. The up side. Bruce Welch was it.? Why was he so underrated. His superb playing solid as a rock . He must have supple wrist. The down side I should say we cant listen to the greatest hits. The sound dose our head in. Its Hanks sound . Its ok on the radio but a whole CD of it. Heads ringing after. Least we give it a go. Though Rise and fall of flingal bunt is brilliant. Dad researched that to find it was in there Burns guitar period for any anoraks out there.


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[Kenny Glasgow]

I've no idea why people harp on about this particular album so much. It's far from their best as far as I'm concerned.

St.Pepper still remains the biggest selling album in UK history and it did break new barriers from how it sounded and the recording techniques down to things like printing the lyrics on the sleeve.

It's not may fav Beatles album, that would be either The White Album or Revolver, but it is still a very good album, all in my opinion of course

 

[Kenny Glasgow]

Hi

No Not at all I ‘m ignoring frank Sinatra I what I am saying is there is a shortage of singers and great voices like Frank’s too. The list is endless. Sorry if I have not included your personal favourite.

Yes pepper is not everyone cup of ovaltine I agree. But that’s the beauty of it . No one makes you buy or even listen to it. Like there revolver period, I hated that. . I love listening to Roll over Beethoven. I just think that was the most superb 12 bar playing on record I have ever heard Must be John playing that.


BTW

Music such a big thing in our house. We Love playing it talking about it. Be cause it spans generations. We have a superb huge CD collection a lot inherited. From mum dads to aunts Even Granny’s parrrrrrrrrp (Fetch the sandpaper and bleach ) Dads Brother was playing some Gerry and the pacemakers CD to us. To show us what a superb guitar player that chap was. I was very impressed with jambalaya. Again that Toe tapping 12 bar. That Gretch Tennessean on the cover wow . Another great Guitar for the wall.

This whole sixties thing. There is a hiccup well a few . But there are other days, and you start upsetting people because of personal preferences. But The shadows I must mention. The up side. Bruce Welch was it.? Why was he so underrated. His superb playing solid as a rock . He must have supple wrist. The down side I should say we cant listen to the greatest hits. The sound dose our head in. Its Hanks sound . Its ok on the radio but a whole CD of it. Heads ringing after. Least we give it a go. Though Rise and fall of flingal bunt is brilliant. Dad researched that to find it was in there Burns guitar period for any anoraks out there.


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As far as I remember the guitars on Roll Over Beethoven are George's 12 Gretcsh and John's short necked Rickenbacker. The version that appeared on The Beatles Second Album in the US has a different guitar intro to the version on With The Beatlesand both versions are full of edits (my anorak moment)

Hank M helped with the development of the Burns guitar and the bass design had John Rostill's involvement. It was an attempt to take the best of the Stratocaster and improve it's performance. You can still buy them from Burns in London

http://www.burnsguitars.com/

 

[Kenny Glasgow]

As a follow-up to my post above I had to satisfy my curiosity and George (probably) used his 1962 Gretsch 6122 Country Gentleman on ROB

For John it was (probably) his 1958 Rickenbacker 325 Capri which stayed with him all those years and was used on the Double Fantasy sessions including Yoko's Walking On Thin Ice. I believe the guitar is now with Sean. Probably the most valuable guitar in the world!

ps: the lead guitar on Ticket To ride is actually Paul playing his Epiphone 1962 Casino

 

[Deleted member 63670]

Great album although I prefer Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys

 

[Kenny Glasgow]

Pet Sounds is a great album indeed and is said to have inspired Sgt.Pepper and was itself inspired by Rubber Soul & Revolver

Main difference is that it's session players like Hal Blaine (drums) and Carole Kaye (bass) on Pet Sounds whereas Sgt.Pepper is all Beatles!

the Pet Sounds Sessions 4 CD box set which came out years ago gives a fascinating insight to the recording of the album and is recommended if you love Pet Sounds

 

[lisa burrell]

Thanks Kenny for the burns link saved that will wallow in that later.

You mention Hal Blaine Drums carol Kay Bass on pet sounds Was Glen Campbell still the invisible beach boy then who did all the lead session guitars or had his carer taken of Dad said he that time he was singing about a guy up a telegraph pole about then who was pretty p off

That Roll over Beethoven do you reckon it was john like i said tapping our feet with that tremendous 12 bar. Love ringos cymbal wosh all through that to very effective. Song makes me really sit up and think ... brilliant. Do you think that moment was ever repeated or was it a moment caught in time will never know.


Thanks anyway All of you..


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[karkus30]

Its fantastic that that everyone nearly of all ages is aware of this album.

We have it in the house and it gets played more than once or twice a year.

I see there's a project going on Via Goggle news to commemorate this Album.

I personally like The Beatles and doing a lot of listening from this period. Like

To tell you why. Its noticeable that in this decade people actually tried to

sing. the voices were distinctive. I love the guitars and the guitar sound

of that period and the playing. I was listening to a short guitar break where

the guitar and piano played in octave together. To give the guitar a bigger

sound on the break I guess. with the aid of a book and reading lots on

the net. i made my way through a few Beatle records of dads and listen

for Different guitars Like john Lennon's Epiphone doing ticket to ride intro. The use

of twelve string guitars. I did not realise was so abundant. Hearing the

Rickenbacker going through its paces. Is there anyone else love listening

at this level of interest. I think its brilliant this makes the period for me.

Imagine instead of paintings you bought guitars like those Guilds those Gretch

those Rickenbacker's and you hung them on the wall. Imagine you new the

History of these machines like you get with a car a service history if you like

and they were well loved and performed on all

these classic and not so classic tunes we all can enjoy. The enjoyment

The instruments have brought. There beautiful too.



It was pointed out to me that today no one sings any more like some of

yours and my heroes anymore. There's no Robert Plants and the like. Also

at the other end of the spectrum there's no one singing like That guy

Who was in the charts again Tony Christi. On a Documentary they were

saying no one singing like Levi stubs of the Four Tops it must hurt to sing like

that. Someone somewhere else i was reading Said there's not the call for

people to sing like that anymore. Made me asked the question. Is the same

scenario going to happen to Guitar players i hope not. To Finnish of in Family

discussions. aunts uncle dad mum it was said back in the Beatle period and after

everyone new who the drummers name the bass players name in bands. They asked

dose anyone care who the drummer is now. What’s happened to all that. I

Had to have a think. On behalf of the youth today I could not come up

with the answer to that.


anyway 40years wow want to read more must say thanks to for bringing me this

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz/s/1003/1003874_stars_join_beatles_tribute.html

related item to thanks to http://reunionsessions.tripod.com/al/faabsessions/1995d.html


[You know how i go of the subject sometimes lol this posting was going to be about killer whales eating sharks. HA HA .. Got sidetracked .. Glad I did .. ]

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In answer to your question about "why no one seems to know who the band members are ?"

Around the time of the Beatles there were far fewer bands around that time and it also coincided with an explosion in affordable record players and records. The beatles were regarded with some distain by the older population (as is always the case) and they were seen as rebels which naturally appealed to the younger people in society.

Record companies suddenly realised just what a huge market had opened up and continued to supply a steady stream of artists. Now of course there are just so many bands and the speed of their fame to obscurity is so fast that no one really has the time to get to know the artists. Like a Big Mac they are bought, consumed and forgotten by the time you leave the restaurant (I say that very loosley) and each new band is just a slight variation on the next.

You have to dig hard to find the modern equivalent of artists like The Beatles, just like you have to spend time and money to find a good restaurant and then appreciate the different tastes and flavours of the food, which might be a bit of a shock after a diet of maccy Ds. The alternative is to go back in time and listen to Artists like The Doors, The Velvet Underground etc.

Glad your enjoying your musical voyage of discovery though......

 

[quarry2006]

Hi

No Not at all I ‘m ignoring frank Sinatra I what I am saying is there is a shortage of singers and great voices like Frank's too. The list is endless. Sorry if I have not included your personal favourite.

Not a question of ignoring personal favourites. You just made a very bold statement that I thought needed to be addressed, that's all.

 

[Kenny Glasgow]

Lisa

Can't remember if Glen C is on Pet Sounds or not, but I'm sure that he had moved on by then and Bruce Johnson had taken his role, on stage anyway.

I recall reading something by Glen saying that he found it wierd playing bass and singing the high part of the harmony

Glen did sing Brian's I Guess I'm Dumb, who also produced it I'm sure. If you haven't heard it, it is worth checking out.

A lot of the early Beatles stuff was done in a few takes due to the fact they didn't have much time to spend in the studio with all the touring they were doing, especially around 63-64.

However if you listen closely you can hear where songs have been spliced together from different takes like ROB and She Loves You.

If you're looking for the atmosphere of ROB, check out the Long Tall Sally EP, whose tracks, LTS, Slow Down, I Call Your Name & Matchbox are also available on Past Masters Vol.1.

Paul's vocals on LTS blow his hero's version away (Little Richard). Paul is very underated as a rock singer. LTS, I'm Down, I Saw Here Standing There, She's A Woman, Helter Skelter, I've Got A Feeling all have superb vocals.

 

[lisa burrell]

Quick one thanks all for that. I understood Glen campbell was firstly the lead guitar on the surfing records. I Did not realise he went on stage too.

There a quite interesting other thread about Glen to which is quashed hear on this thread i found comes c/o http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_319a.html

you might find it quite interesting too.


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[Whiting]

As a 35 year old, the depressing thing about "40 Years of Sgt Pepper" is that I'm old enough to remember the "20 Years of Sgt. Pepper" anniversary

Someone'll be saying it's 20 Years since "The Joshua Tree" next

 

[lintwind]

yep, Billy Shears rules

 

[Kenny Glasgow]

As a 35 year old, the depressing thing about "40 Years of Sgt Pepper" is that I'm old enough to remember the "20 Years of Sgt. Pepper" anniversary

Someone'll be saying it's 20 Years since "The Joshua Tree" next

well I supoose it's the 20th anniversary of the CD release of Sgt Pepper.....

 

[lisa burrell]

As a 35 year old, the depressing thing about "40 Years of Sgt Pepper" is that I'm old enough to remember the "20 Years of Sgt. Pepper" anniversary

Someone'll be saying it's 20 Years since "The Joshua Tree" next

LOL from my Dad He said also at 35 you have left school longer than you at school ... is that right...... to add to the above.

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