40" Loewe - anymore info??

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  1. Bone Daddy

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    Does anyone (maybe Gordon) know when this is available and more important specs - this sounds like it might be the one for me,any info much appreciated <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
     
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    Linn distribute Loewe in the UK, so you could try contacting them. I wouldn't expect a quick reply though, the product won't be around for a bit still.
     
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    No firm specs as yet; just know that it is going to be bloody big and very heavy!!!!!!!

    If Loewe have any sense it will have a decent RGBHV input on it and/or progressive component inputs - somebody needs to start the ball rolling with regard to HDTV-capable TVs in Europe.
     
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    I wouldn't be in a hurry to call Loewe UK. We have a client who is desperate to order one of these. Loewe are, at present, unable to tell us the dimensions of the case. It is estimated to be on sale early next year. It will use Thomson 40" TUBE rather than a philips one whih is what's inthe rest of the range.

    There is still no sign of it on Loewe.de web site.

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    Martin,<br />This just shows what a sad bunch of third world (tech speaking), ripped of brits we are.

    I have a semi interested neighbor a few doors away who has recently discovered what the term Progressive Scan is therefore suddenly he has become Joe Kane.<br />I pointed out a couple of things to this guy.<br />Firstly that his new R2 Progressive Pioneer player does not do progressive with R2(PAL).<br />Secondly, even if he gets the player chipped to play R1 how is he going to connect the component outs to his new 32 inch phillips widescreen tv to acheive 480p.<br />I also mentioned that another slight problem is of course that the tv does not scan high enough to do 480p. <br />Whoops, I just heard a gunshot.

    Seriously, we really are a screwed up bunch.<br />We are one of the richest nations in the world, (thanks to the never ending ripp offs that the goverment freely allows, and why shoulden't they, lots more lovely tax. And of course, the main ripp of merchants, the Goverment themselves) <br />yet we are light years behind the Japanese and Americans (who as you know both have HDTV, ).

    Rupert Murdoch is one of the biggest con merchants with his Sky Digital lovely clear DTV.<br />Clear until you project a 100" image onto a screen and realize what low bandwidth obselete rubbish it actually is.

    I think they should write a new song for the proms. Land of Hope and Glory should be replaced with Land of the Ripped Off and Sorry.

    Eric
     
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    Just remembered a conversation I had with Udo Zucker of Tag McLaren last year regarding HDTV. He pointed out that DVD looks fantastic to just about everybody, and that it utilizes 525 interlaced lines. PAL TV broadcasts can use 576 (?) lines.........

    [Please feel free to correct me if the above is complete balls......!]

    <br />Simon (not Martin!), Martin-Kleiser's temporary Moscow representative... (Gordon - you have never seen really bad blocky break-up of digital sat until you try watching European channels out here.....!)
     
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    Gordon,<br />All what you say may be true. Of course the U.S studios have had problems with HDTV, both technical (the Japanese are leading the way with their latest generation HDTV gear, while the studios in the USA who have commited feel that they haven't even had their moneys worth with their current investment let alone throwing even more dollars at the latest gear) and financial (slow on the uptake due to immensely confused consumers, low quantity HDTV programing, price of HDTV sets at launch etc etc.<br />However, things are changing. The price of HDTV sets for example has plumeted while the displays have improved.<br />Currently, one of the best 'mainstream' sets on the market is the phillips 55" bought by many a U.S reviewer which sells at a street price of around 3500 USD, unthinkable a short while ago.<br />More programing is also planned along with other improvements.<br />All in all, HDTV done right, looks magnificent, period.

    Keith,<br />I must disagree with some of your comments.

    "Quote"<br />As a broadcast delivery system the UK implementation is one of the best in the world"

    My local Pizza Hut also delivers something very well. However, by the time it gets to my door its cold, damp and horrible. Get the picture. Good, Sky digital viewers dont.

    "Quote"<br />The grass is always greener etc"<br />Thats because it is!!!<br />In general, consumers in this country get mostly inferior goods and services (case in point Sky TV, Slow and expensive internet access and much much more) at higher prices. FACT not FICTION.

    "Quote"<br />The displays will be significantly cheaper and better quality.<br />Are you sure about that statement? I nearly fell off my chair.<br />Come on Keith. How can you say that.

    Every manufacturer of any and everything knows that they can get higher prices in the UK.<br />England is where the mugs are, dont you know.<br />Not the biggest market by any means but lovely fat profit margins.<br />Hell, even our own manufacturing industry screws us. Far too many examples to mention even a small percentage but one case in point is cars.<br />By the time a Jaguar goes across the Atlantic it suddenly becomes cheaper. <br />etc etc etc<br />At best take a dollar price and change the dollar sign to a pound note sign.<br />i.e. 3000 USD becomes 3000 pounds (nearly a grand diffrence using this example) <br />At worst many things are double the price and more.

    "Significantly cheaper", yeah right.

    Best Wishes<br />Eric
     
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    Simon: I guessed you must be out there about now. Did you know Galsgow is on the same line of latitude as Moscow........

    525 lines is for NTSC. 480 of which are active picture. PAL DVD is the same as PAL video and PAL broadcast with, as you say, 576 active lines out of a possible 625.

    Those of you coming to THE EVENT will have a chance to purchase a book from the Snell and Wilcox "handbook series". It's entitled, Video Formats: Signals, Formats and Interfaces.

    Richard is going to bring few up. All proceeds going to charity. This book is not available in the shops!

    Gordon
     
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    Eric: We've both seen HiDef done right and I agree. It's just it is rarely done right. In the US the NTSC television standard is so grotty that virtually anything was going to look better....

    I'm all for high quality sets that we can plug scalers and de-interlacers in to though.

    The programming will come.

    Gordon "Build it and they will come" Fraser<br />In DARK South Lanarkshire
     
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    When I was over doing the ISF thing in the summer most of the guys on it were actually complaining bitterly about how CRAP their HD-TV was. Low bit rates causing blocking and other serious artifacts were the main culprits....

    It's also interesting to note that although they are really only broadcasting 3 picture resolutions they have the choice of 32 interlaced and 16 progressive as recommended by the ATSC. Now how confusing would that have been for the consumer!

    Gordon
     
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