Ok folks. There's a new one out again, it's 3D Mark 2005. Have you got it yet? I've just finished building a new pc this week and was quite keen to check out this new benchmark to see what it can do. All I can say is, WOW! The graphic demonstrations in the benchmarks and in the demo are awsome, and the future of gaming is looking brighter and brighter. Making use of the latest dx9c advances you can see that life after HL2 might not be so grim after all. Lets just hope the developers utilize the potential power in hand. However, this will bring your FPS to a stand still if your machine is somewhat lacking in the pc power stakes. I managed a score of 5642. My new machine is a Pentium 4 (Prescott 775) 3 gHz on an MSI 915P Neo2 Platinum with 1024 MB of 533 mHz DDR2 RAM. The graphics card is a Radeon X850 XT courtesy of Connect 3D and I've gone for a 200GB SATA Maxtor HDD. PS. Watch this space for my old kit going up for sale, inc. my Saphire Radeon 9800 pro and A7N8X Deluxe N-Force 2 board.