37"+ LCD recommendation requested

asm495

Standard Member
Hi,

I'm currently looking into getting a new LCD TV screen to replace my stop-gap Sainsbury's Sonix 26" which will then get relegated to the bedroom. My requirements are:

  • 37" or bigger
  • DVI support in dot-by-dot mode (i.e. no scaling of 1024x768 to 1366x768)
  • £2000 or less
  • Support for Sky HD services when available

I envisage initially that I will have only two inputs to this TV - DVI from my Media Center PC and my PS2 via component.

I've been reading up on the new generation of LCD TVs and it appears that most don't support dot-by-dot modes over DVI and just scale the output.

Does anyone have any suggestions which meet these requirements please?

Any help much appreciated, thanks.
 
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Deleted member 49876

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Wait for sky to xmit hd and the manufacturers to supply 1080 panels

They will be calling them True HD instead of HD ready.

Its just an opinion but as you say 768 scaling is less than perfect, plus of course its not too technically challenging to see how a 1080p screen scales very neatly when fed a 540p signal, which lets face it represents most of what you will watch on sky for the next few years.

I started a thread mocking the Sharp 540 panels, but having listend to the responses and seen the complete mess the latest Sony efforts make scaling 540 I have changed my mind, they are probably the best value on the market today.
 

neilmcl

Well-known Member
joker_zero said:
Wait for sky to xmit hd and the manufacturers to supply 1080 panels

They will be calling them True HD instead of HD ready.

Its just an opinion but as you say 768 scaling is less than perfect, plus of course its not too technically challenging to see how a 1080p screen scales very neatly when fed a 540p signal, which lets face it represents most of what you will watch on sky for the next few years.

I started a thread mocking the Sharp 540 panels, but having listend to the responses and seen the complete mess the latest Sony efforts make scaling 540 I have changed my mind, they are probably the best value on the market today.
Don't tell me you're a convert Joker, I may have to print this post out for posterity :D
 

RockySpieler

Novice Member
Benq DV3750 £1199 very cheap, not many reviews (I do not have one).

It's a 1980x1080 panel, but can only do 1080i, just like the Philips 37FP9830 which is £2400 :eek: , however 1080i should look really good without scaling (8ms):-

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248469&highlight=dv3750

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236477&highlight=dv3750

Or Cleardragon 42" 1980x1080 (8ms) £1795 again not many reviews, and no DVI or HDMI has VGA ("only" a problem for HD-DVD, BlueRay, or PS3 but XBox and initial SkyHD will have analogue outputs):-

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250613
 
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Sledge

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asm495 said:
Hi,

I'm currently looking into getting a new LCD TV screen to replace my stop-gap Sainsbury's Sonix 26" which will then get relegated to the bedroom. My requirements are:

  • 37" or bigger
  • DVI support in dot-by-dot mode (i.e. no scaling of 1024x768 to 1366x768)
  • £2000 or less
  • Support for Sky HD services when available

I envisage initially that I will have only two inputs to this TV - DVI from my Media Center PC and my PS2 via component.

I've been reading up on the new generation of LCD TVs and it appears that most don't support dot-by-dot modes over DVI and just scale the output.

Does anyone have any suggestions which meet these requirements please?

Any help much appreciated, thanks.
I've received the Sharp LC-37GA6E on Tuesday. This has an hdmi interface and a pc (vga) input. The vga will only do 1280x768.

I'm waiting on delivery of a DVI to HDMI cable so I can use that as it is meant to do 1:1 1366x768 mapping (In reality 1360x768 or 1368x768 but won't go into that here...). Have spoken to techo's in Sharp who assure me it can do this.

My previous set the Sharp LC37GA3E did this until the screen got smashed.

Will keep you posted.

On yeah, the screen retails for £1650 at www.rgbdirect.co.uk (Very good service) or £1679 from www.empiredirect.co.uk where I got mine as insurance claim.
 

asm495

Standard Member
Borgy - I had a quick look at the JVC manual and it says that it only supports 1024x768 PC input. Do you have this screen and can you confirm if it does support dot-by-dot mode?

Sledge - I'd be very interested in your experiences of the GA6E. I had in fact placed an order for a GA3E about a year ago with Empire Direct for under £2000 but they were unable to fulfil it. Please let me know how you get on feeding in a PC signal over the HDMI input.

The BenQ price looks too good to be true and doing a bit of digging around it seems that the PC inputs again don't support more than 1024x768. A year ago it seemed all the LCD TVs supported native inputs - even my Sonix LCD does that!

Thanks!
 

Borgy

Standard Member
Hi m8,
I can't actually confirm this, just seen the PQ on this TV and was blown away, I know on the spec it claims it can do the resolution but unsure on dot-dot.
 

RockySpieler

Novice Member
asm495 said:
Borgy - I had a quick look at the JVC manual and it says that it only supports 1024x768 PC input. Do you have this screen and can you confirm if it does support dot-by-dot mode?

Sledge - I'd be very interested in your experiences of the GA6E. I had in fact placed an order for a GA3E about a year ago with Empire Direct for under £2000 but they were unable to fulfil it. Please let me know how you get on feeding in a PC signal over the HDMI input.

The BenQ price looks too good to be true and doing a bit of digging around it seems that the PC inputs again don't support more than 1024x768. A year ago it seemed all the LCD TVs supported native inputs - even my Sonix LCD does that!

Thanks!
AVF member DowntotheBone gets 1:1 pixel mapping 1360x768 via DVI on his Benq DV3250:-

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236454&page=1&pp=15&highlight=benq

UPDATED

DV3750 seems to have PC input problems, only 1080i via DVI with HDCP (devices such as upscaling DVD player, HD-DVD, SkyHD, or PC with Windows Vista and hardware):-

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6118286&&#post6118286


You could wait for these Toshiba units to arrive from Japan:-

http://www.myav.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?threadid=199904
 

asm495

Standard Member
Looks like the Sharp LC37GA6E is possibly the best bet at the time being. As and when you get the DVI->HDMI cable please let me know how you get on as I think that would be the deciding factor in a purchase. Thanks!
 
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Sledge

Guest
Received the cable today.

It does indeed do 1368x768. I still need to muck about with phase & clock to get it just right.

A side effect of plugging in the HDMI cable is that I could also get 1368x768 on the pc input. Weird stuff.

The menu options with this version are poor to say the least. You had pages of options on the older sets and next to nothing on this one for HDMI & PC input.
 

asm495

Standard Member
That's great to hear - looks like that's the only screen which meets my requirements. What do you make of the picture quality on the GA6E when connected to the PC?
 
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dakara

Guest
Hi Sledge,
can you please let us know how this TV handles regular satellite tv,because this is all that I can get here,as I live in a valley.I don't play games,but do watch the BBC five,and dvd's.I was leaning towards the P50, but if the GA6E handles these broadcasts just as well,I will get that instead.
I would not be using the Tv tuner,just my satellite receiver.
Thanks, Dakara :lease:
 
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mebourne

Guest
Sledge said:
It does indeed do 1368x768. I still need to muck about with phase & clock to get it just right.
And that's definitely 1:1 pixel mapping with no overscan?

You wouldn't happen to know if it also does that at 50Hz or 75Hz, or just 60Hz would you?

Thanks, Martin.
 

Caimbeul

Novice Member
I have the JVC LT-37DS6 and it does 1366x768 from a PC (confirmed) although it takes a little fiddling with the PC display settings.

The Samsung LEXXR41 & 51 range have the best 1:1 pixel display from PC I have ever seen. Absolutely perfect. (I have the 26" version also).
 
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Deleted member 49876

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neilmcl said:
Don't tell me you're a convert Joker, I may have to print this post out for posterity :D
You caught me - its true - although I'm more likely to hang on for 1080 panels or to look at a big ol plasma for a song and pick something better in 2 or 3 years. :D
 

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