360 via VGA/upscaling/performance/smearing

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  1. gubar

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    Looking onto getting a HD tv, and wondered what the situation is with the 360 (without an add on HD dvd drive) upscaling. Some sources say the max in can do is 480p, others that it can upscale regular DVD to 720p via VGA only. So I'm thinking of getting a VGA cable.

    Anyone got any experience of this, and also of how good a job it does?

    Also, if you set the res to higher that 720 x for gaming, does the performance suffer in games, which I would imagine are optimized for 720p?

    Final question - the LCD smearing annoys me. Is this improved over VGA compared to component, given that it is a digital signal?

    Thanks all
     
  2. RottenFox

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    vga isnt digital,its analogue.
    if your lcd smears on one input,its going to smear on them all,best advice is live with it,or next time round,buy a tv with a better response time..thats about the only thing you can do.
    as for higher res,hurting performance,in some instances i would say it does/did.-saints row for one,slap it on 1920x1080,and it chugs along sometimes,but stick it back lower,it seems better,smoother almost.
    all depends on game,developer,optimisation,framerate,etc.
    vga will let you upscale dvds,to 720p etc.
    on my tv,i cant tell the difference between vga,and component,its that good.
    but some tvs,like my last 1080p goodmans,component was horrible,and vga was far better.
    i suppose its all panel dependant..
    you may find that vga will look a little washed out,and pale compared to component,but adjust the colours and it should be fine.
    again not all tvs are like this.
    also,component may have overscan meaning you lose a percentage of the screen on the left and right of the picture,whereas vga should give you a proper picture without cut-off.
     
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    TO answer your questions, yes the 360 is an exceptionally good upscaler over VGA. Resolution will NOT effect game performance. The smearing is because you bought an LCD I'm afraid. If you want to get rid of it totally sell it and by a plasma. Harsh but fact unfortunately.
     
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    Rather than start a new thread I'll add to this one.

    When I upscale DVD's over VGA to my Plasma I seem to get a very jerky picture, whenever the camera pans it judders badly. Does anyone else experience this? If so is there a way to improve it? Its bad enough that I'm considering using a standard DVD player instead.
     
  5. smokingreen

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    I believe its bacause vga is locked to 60Hz and all pal DVDs are 50Hz, the incompatibility leads to a jerky picture, Im not sure if there is a way around this, if there is I would also be very interested as I have reverted to a standard dvd player.
     
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    Hmmm, it also does it with NTSC dvd's for me. I might try the component cable tonight and see if its the same, not that it helps as I much prefer playing games over VGA
     
  7. gubar

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    Thanks for the replies,

    just ordered one and will try it soon.

    g
     
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    My Samsung upscaling DVD player does this...if I play a PAL DVD and the player is set to NTSC, and vice versa. Event though the player is unlocked to automatically play NTSC I still have to go into the player menu and physically change it to NTSC for the 'juddering' to stop.

    Maybe there's a setting on your TV to change from PAL to NTSC? My TV detects it automatically but it may be switcheable on yours?

    Just a thought:thumbsup:
     
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    Corrected it for you :)
    My LCD is fine. Harsh but fact unfortunately.
     
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    Just to confirm you dont need the HD-DVD addon to upscale, all you need is the VGA cable and it can upscale upto 1080p as long as your TV can handle that res through VGA.
     

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