3:10 to Yuma 4K Blu-ray Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      I have this on Blu Ray and watched a few times. I am ready to watch again, but the sound in 7.1 is one of the best I have heard and the Blu Ray picture is pretty good too.

      Will I benefit from DTS:X and 4k?

      If only companies did a part-ex scheme to trade in our Blu Rays.
       
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      If it's the same transfer as the US disc then how the hell did this get 8/10?
       
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      Too. Many. Upgrades. :)
       
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      Which this isn't, IMO.
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas, i got my copy ages ago so must have imported it from america.
       
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      I loved this film, got the blu ray and have avoided the 4k release due to the reviews that the us disc has got nearly everywhere, but this uk disc, which is the same port, get 8/10, now im confused and tempted to buy it.
       
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      The 4K PQ is noticeably inferior to the Blu-ray thanks to De-graining and poor HDR colour grading. All it takes is to watch the first 15 minutes to realise how messed up the 4K UHD is. This is simkar to Oblivion and Dredd. Not sure how this has been missed during the review
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas,brought the US one,really good to catch up with it again :)
       
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      <OT>
      Dredd picture quality was great for me with HDR and WCG working overtime.
      </end OT> :)
       
    11. lgans316

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      I was under the same impression until I did A-B comparison with the Blu-ray. The Blu-ray retains grain structure that resolves high frequency details properly.

      3:10 and Dredd 4Ks are no longer a part of my 4K UHD collection after I figured out the PQ was inferior to its Blu-ray counterparts.
       
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      Hmm i'll test my Dredd tonight, out of interest what tv do you watch on Lgans?
       
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      LG 65C8 OLED from 7.5 ft and Panasonic UB700 which will be replaced by Panasonic UB820 (DV and HDR10+) this weekend. :)

      Mate, trust me. I am not fooling around. Dredd, 3:10 & Oblivion are inferior to their Blu-ray counterparts for picture quality.

      3:10 to Yuma: 3:10 to Yuma (note only seen on these caps but also in motion for me) and there is a master 4K DNR thread at a different forum which has this on the worst offender list.
       
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      The Sound section of review refers to the previous version having a DTS Master Audio 7.1 track. Perhaps there were different 1080p Blu-ray discs, but the one that I have has an uncompressed 7.1 PCM soundtrack, not DTS-MA HD 7.1, as I described here in the summary for one of my periodic film shows (if the link still works!) 3:10 to Yuma.
       
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      You must be talking about a US version because the 4k looks a lot better than the UK version.
       
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      Which version of Dredd? Definitely not the UK or French blu-rays. Puzzled by your comment tbh.
       
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      US Blu-ray. I know it's not grest. I sold my French and JP Dredd without even watching the 4K which is quite filtered.. Got the Novamedia and FilmArena Blu-rays which are similar to the FR release.
       
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      The 3:10 To Yuma blu ray wasn't perfect to begin with in it's picture quality. The 4k may look better in certain areas but it is also riddled with DNR (which wasn't on the blu ray) giving an unnatural picture. Lionsgate messed up the original blu ray and messed up again for the 4K release.
       
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      Dude you should have kept your French and JP Dredd blu rays :eek: i originally had the garbage UK blu ray :zonked: then got the excellent 2d French blu ray. Picture quality much better. Only problem was is that the sound engineers who done the sound left a fault in the mastered disc (when listening through analogue cables anyway) annoying crackling sounds appears on the bike chase at the start and at various other scenes.

      Did manage to do a make shift fix by lowering the trim speaker volume settings on my Oppo player by a few db. But i wanted the speaker settings as they were before so ended up getting the JP version which thankfully didn't have the same sound problem as the French disc :clap: i only have 5.1 speakers but the DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 audio down mixed to 5.1 sounds amazing in my small living room :D
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      I was talking about Dredd not 3:10 :)
       
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      </OT>
      Sorry for the OT again but you guys are basically saying that every single 4k review of Dredd is wrong? The reviews vary in praise or otherwise but none of them say that this is worse than the Blu Ray, even the US reviews.
      </end OT>
       
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      Trust us, it's not the first time that this has happened. 3:10 to Yuma should essentially be avoided on UHD. It's a shambles. God knows how it got an 8/10 on here.
       
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      No problem but I'm still OT and talking about Dredd lol.
       
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      Dredd falls in the same league mate. Its got some temporal noise reduction. Nowadays after watching the 4K, I immediately spot check the 1080p Blu-ray. If I find the 1080p Blu-ray to be superior then the 4K disc goes straight up for sale. Got zero tolerance towards bad 4K UHDs.

      Having said that, I still got Oblivion and King Kong (2005) 4Ks in my collection as I sold the regular Blu-rays long time ago.

      Yesterday, I watched MI-3 (HDR10) and noticed how similar it looked to the Blu-ray. It made me feel quite angry as the first 2 were pretty good upgrades. Will play the 4K disc again in Dolby Vision this weekend once I have my Panny UB820 player in-hand.
       
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      Apologies, that's what I meant! Both of these discs were early offenders by Lionsgate where for some reason they used film outs of the DI's and slathered them with DNR. Luckily they seem to have sorted out their sh*t for most of their releases since.
       
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      Quote (from bluray.com):
      Originally Posted by Amano [​IMG] <-- link to forum
      Hmm. I don't think that Dredd belongs in that list at all? The detail was not lost due to DNR but due to the generational loss of being a filmout. So grain was rather added than removed?
      Reply from LoSoul
      I don't think that those filmout ideas for UHD are great.
      Yeah, Dredd is the opposite of DNR because of the film out.

      Blu-ray Forum - View Single Post - List of UHDs that contains DNR

      Although this is relevant because 3:10 is said to suffer the same DNR issues I will "try to" refrain from any more posts on this matter (even though this is interesting *to me*) because this is a 3:10 forum. Unless of course 3:10 also has film out issues?
       
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      That was not what I experienced. Played the Blu-ray and immediately noticed that it resolved fine details properly although the Blu-ray had some other issues.

      These pics don't lie.

      Dredd • US Ultra HD Blu-ray vs. US Blu-ray
       
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      Yep I'm sure you are right. I'm just saying that the reason seems to be more to so with the process resulting in a DNR like appearance including the loss of fine detail. At least that is according to the same people on that forum who also agree that 3:10 definitely is DNR'ed.
       
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      Mate, lgans has never seen the Dredd disc.

      Two truck loads of salt, and all that.
       
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      I had the french Dredd blu-ray disc, I had 3:10 on blu - in both cases I was more than happy with the upgrade to 4k discs. I'm not interested in screen caps, I'm somewhat interested in fellow forum members opinions and take all reviews with a pinch of that truck load of salt. I do admit it is crazy judging (no pun) these things for myself.
       

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