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Question 2nd car for wife - Nissan leaf?

Discussion in 'Hybrid, PHEV & EV Electric Cars Forum' started by itn, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. itn

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    ive been offered the extended warranty for a further 2 years for £399. my current warranty runs out Sept 2018.

    does the extended warranty cover issues with battery and is it worth it?
     
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    No clue to be honest, my warranty runs til June 19 and I'm planning to change it shortly before that.

    If it does cover the battery, I'd say £400 is probably pretty decent. They rarely break down but if they do, it's unlikely to be cheap.
     
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    Lol, that's the Leaf Spy report I referred to before.

    Unfortunately the state of health isn't 99%, it's 88%. Stated at the top.

    And it has had 361 rapid charges!

    Those figures wouldn't worry me much, but it's kinda bizarre that the dealer can't read!

    Edit, am I nuts or does that also state odometer reading 61k miles? I've never paid much attention to the odometer readout but it looks like maybe he sent the reading from a different car?
     
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    @gangzoom could maybe clarify, he had a Leaf longer than I have.
     
  5. itn

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    just had a word with the dealer earlier, who put them hands up and apologised like mad, advised they've sent me the wrong chart.

    ive attached the correct one here, ill delete earlier post, if it allows me to.

    The dealer has also sent me this graph from a diagnostic read re battery, advisor reckons battery health is at 99% and has only had 2 rapid charges in its life.
     

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    You said it your self, £7.5k and 0% interest, I would snap that up before someone else buys it!!

    If your predicted usage is only 50 miles a week range/battery degradation is a non issue for you.

    Warranty is up to you, the Leaf is a Nissan and Nissans rarely go wrong. Out of all the EVs on sale the Leaf has by far the least number of problems reported, having said that because it is an EV with no third party repair options if something broke your be paying Nissan Maindealer labour rates. So totally up to you, personally I wouldn't bother.

    Happy car shopping.
     
  7. itn

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    Thanks guys, deposits been paid to hold car as I thought car would be ok. Gonna speak to the dealers today to get finance papers sorted.

    How strict is the finance? I'm going for HP option, but I've had credit issues in the past. I'm gonna put a £4K deposit, what is the likelihood I would be refused? I've never purchased a car with finance from a dealer before, always purchased the car outright.

    Regards
     
  8. itn

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    Hey guys just an update, finance gone through fine. Will justjust to sort collection or delivery of the car and the charging pod installation.

    Thank you all for your tips and advice.

    Regards
     
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    Congratulations, enjoy.
     
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    So second hand cars also get the free installation option? awesome.
     
  11. itn

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    free install for the charging pod somethink..and 2 years free service.
     
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    Nobody mentioned free servicing to us when we bought new, I hope we have that too.
     
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    So, let me sum up:

    You have purchased a 2013 Leaf Acenta for £7,555 from a main dealer with 24,745 miles on the clock; £4K deposit and £98.76 for 3 years at 0% HP. The battery pack is included in the price and also the warranty and, in addition, a free charging pod fitted at your house.

    Bloody hell - I can't believe it - well done :cool: :thumbsup:
     
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    Please keep us posted with your thoughts on the car @itn, both good and bad.

    I've always purchased new ICE cars, but it could be worthwhile purchasing a used EV car because it is totally different...

    ...And has a lot less moving parts!
     
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    yeah will do, once its delivered and signed off etc.
     
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    Moving parts. I've been looking into this and the most expensive parts to replace in an ICE car are:

    Seized engine
    Turbo
    Fuel injector
    Head gasket
    Gear box
    Timing belt
    Fuel pump
    Clutch
    Differential

    An EV has none of those, except maybe for the differential. Not sure what the arrangement is in an EV. Separate electric motors for the wheels?
     
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    Single motor, standard? differential.
     
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    Done a bit of research.

    The Leaf has a single motor and torque biasing differential (TBD) and also brake assisted traction control. If one wheel starts to slip the traction control puts a slight braking force on that wheel and the TBD transfers more torque onto the other wheel to make it turn.

    The TBD does not have any friction plates so there is no energy loss when cornering. So the TBD behaves like (or emulates) a limited slip differential, but with minimal energy loss.
     
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    Interesting, thanks.
     
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    When I got my Leaf in 2015 Nissan was offering sub £200 per month, £0 deposit, 0% APR on 2-3 year PCP deal for a brand new car. It was one of the main reasons I jumped over to EVs, the deal was simply too good to ignore when I was spending around £200/month for fuel in my 335i at the time!!

    Than once you try an EV you simply cannot go back to anything else :thumbsup:
     
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    @IronGiant Have you tired a slamming the throttle pedal to floor when pulling out of a junction yet?? All I can say is make sure your holding the steering wheel tight!!

    I'm 100% Nissan limits the torque in the Leaf will about 5 mph+ simply due to the amount of torque steer your average hatchback owner would not except to experience.
     
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    update: as the wife will be will be the main driver, I've added front parking sensors, confirmed they will be original Nissan variant, at an additional cost of £250. But I have been informed they are always connected, and cannot be turned off, so if you get near a car they will make a noise, this is a bit of a PITA.

    also been advised delivery of car is £1.20 a mile so 136 miles im looking at £165.

    anybody use a car transporting company?

    regards

    Mo
     
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    In the current warm weather, you should be able to do 136 miles with just one charge up midway if your feeling brave!!

    Though if you have never driven an EV on a long trip it may give you a serious attack of range anxiety!!
     
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    The temperate here in Northampton is about 30 deg C.

    Does this high (for the UK) temperature have an effect on the Leaf's battery pack - drastically reducing the range?

    Or/and is it because the Leaf's air conditioning is working hard in this weather?
     
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    At Mrs IG's work the aircon broke down today, and you can't open any windows... So she peed every one off by turning the aircon on in her Leaf before leaving so it was nice and frosty when she got in. :D Even in this weather running the aircon only seems to knock 3 miles off the 93 mile reported range we are getting at the moment. So, in summary, the weather isn't making any difference at the moment.
     
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    No, and no desire to do so.
     
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    Air con uses hardly any extra energy in the Leaf, its the cold that kills range due to deceased battery efficiency and need to use heating systems.
     
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    So hot weather makes very little difference to the range of the Leaf.

    Useful to know.
     
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    I need to stop reading this.

    My Kia Ceed is perfectly fine for my needs.

    Has another year of free servicing, 5 more years warranty and the fuel costs are pretty modest for the low miles it does. As is the insurance and car tax.

    But....... If I can get a good enough second hand deal I might be tempted.

    I'm expecting current used values to drop further with the new model due this year?
     
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    My daughter's partner purchased a spanking new Kia Cee'd 1.6 CRDi diesel. Already he's getting 67 mpg on average.

    He reckons when the engine has run in he'll easily do Northampton to Edinburgh and back on a tank full with room to spare.

    It's a lovely car and I'm sorely tempted, but I've still got my mind set on a new EV for maybe next year.
     

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