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26 inches of HDCP for under 600 quid?

Discussion in 'LCD & LED LCD TVs' started by mdfwrestler, Mar 16, 2005.

  1. mdfwrestler

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    does seem an absolute peach of a display, my only issue would be aspect ratio of 15:9 (or is ir 16:10) and therefore 1280x768 resolution.

    if it was 27" at 1280x720 (16:9) then i would seriously consider it!
     
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    I'm not impressed with it. Leaving cosmetics to one side I have personally tested this tv with dvd through scart and prog scan. picture quality in my opinion was very good but the Sonix had the edge in both colour/contrast and definition. I also tried the dvi connection with a pc using a Nvidia 6800 GT card. This was more noticable and the Sonix showed a more realistic picture with movie and sport alike.
    I still am yet to find out if the Sonix is/isn't a HDTV as Ebuyer says the Video7 version is..... But even if it isnt for the £100 saving I would still reco the Sonix....Sainsburys buy or not! ;)

    Ps ..I nearly forgot to mention about the esthetics...I do not take to any screens that insist on placing the speakers on either end. That may give a better sound because they can use larger speakers in the sides (although I hadnt noticed a difference between the two) but that design does tend to make the tv itself look far bigger than it is or needs to be imo. Also I thought the Sonix actually looked a more expensive tv and better finished for what its worth :)
     
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    bada55 aka mr sonix :smashin:
     
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    Yeah I'm that taken with it Mick maybe I should change my name ;)
    To be fare though I have spent months lookings for a decent LCDTV and have made many comparisons.
    When I bought that Sonix 2 weeks ago I put it next to my mates Panasonic 26" for a complete test using the same equipment. I then tried it out against an Acer....I have a mate who works for the suppliers of Acer so we did the same last week coz I had time to return my TV if I prefered the Acer. Ive also checked it out against other mates Sharp and Sony and I certainly do not regret my decision.
     
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    Cheers for the feed back, it’s all good and well finding these offers amongst the maze of LCD’s but there’s no comparison to seeing them in the flesh and testing against higher branded models.

    I hear exactly what you’re saying compared to the Sonix for quality but feel comforted by the Acer’s HDCP when parting with my beer tokens – I’m on the fence now, not sure which way to fall….. any more comments would be well received!
     
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    Yeah I understnd that and wish I knew if the Sonix was HDCP too....It looks like I will end up calling the suppliers if no one else has heard yet ;)

    Ps I did buy mine for the bedroom as I dont think its a good time to buy a bigger screen for the living room till 2006-7 and then we will all benfit from far better prices and hopefully know which formats to use etc etc etc
     
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    I'm in the same situation, the LCD is a replacement for the bedroom so it's not my main viewing screen (although it would become the best display i own).

    Think I'll opt for the Sonix and put the £100 towards my lounge replacement (funds permitting) later/next year.

    Thanks again for your comments - any suggestions on how i convince the missus?
     
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    tell her ya get a free 'rabbit' with the set :D
     
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    tevion if you can find one not the best looking set in the world but 100% hdcp
     
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    I'm going to show my ignorance here....but will there be a huge difference in picture quality using HDTV compaired to the existing signal from Sky ?
     
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    Does anyone know the best deal on a rabbit? (HDCP compliant of course) :rotfl:
     
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    :D I think you will be more than happy with the Sonix and even happier if it is HDcp compliant too when we eventually find out :)

    As for the wife...Hmmmm! Try telling her the LCDTV's are much cheaper on the electric bill so she can spend the savings on a new hat whatever ;) :clap:

    If that doesn't work you could try divorce, I did.:) Now I can put pictures up on any wall I want and of any females I want ;) Plus freedom to do whatever I want yay ;)
     
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    Hi Bada55

    As a matter of interest who is it that supplies this LCD TV to Acer?

    FYI - I do have this Acer TV and I can tell you the picture is just stunning. I've downloaded some real HD clips from the DivX site and they just blew me away.

    Also, the Sonix TV at Sainsburys definitely is NOT HDCP-compliant. I called Sainsburys last week and after about an hour on the phone to one of their people at HQ they finally gave me the news - phew!

    Cheers

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    but did he actually know wat he was talkin about?
     
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    Almost certainly not but he could be right by accident. OTOH, it wouldn't surprise me to find that the Sonix is HDCP compliant since the manufacturer, Orion, is a registered HDCP licensee. So much of the stuff on the Sonix box label and in the English manual has been proven to be wrong*, it's more than possible that the HDCP compliance has been overlooked in the printed matter.

    *Described as 500:1 Contrast but is actually 600:1
    *Described as 25ms response time but is actually 16ms
     
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    After my ordeal with sainsburys today, I think im just going to buy the Acer from Misco. Firstly, I rang the store closest to me (a good 4 miles away) who a few days ago had said they are sold out, btu this time, the monkey on the phone said there is no such TV. So i decided to go and see for myself. When i got there, none of the staff had a clue! I finally found the TV on some backshelf in the middle of nowhere, and after 15 minz and 2 useless workers, they finally opened the box so that i could see the manual. Nobody of course knew the warranty with it.... all just saying, its probably 1 year, hardly reassuring. I dont think I want to deal with these people when something goes wrong, and plus the acer comes with 2 years onsite warranty for 80 quid more and is definatrley HDCP compliant. Looks like Misco is getting my money!
     
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    I have no idea who supplies the tv to Acer I acquired it from a supplier.

    You are a brave man to accept any info as gospel from Sainsburys head office. They do not even know which stores these tv sets are available from let alone what HDCP compliance is? According to eBuyer who are more of a specialist than Sainsburys in this area I would like to think, even they have got it wrong apparently and have said that the 26" & 32" Video7 tv's are HDTV's. I will be happy when I hear it from the Sonix suppliers/manufacturer and not before, but thanks for the trouble ;)
     
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    I appreciate what Sainsburys are like but we did post on here ages ago what the guarantee was...12 months in which time you get a new replacement if they have one or a complete refund which is brilliant I think. Breakdown insurance is available from most insurers for £45 for 3 years. I think those of us that have bought a Sonix from Sainsburys have some knowledge of supermarkets already and therefore put up with their lack of knowledge when it come to a bargain. I never mentioned that I also bought from my local store on the same day I bought the Sonix a Panasonic DVD LS50 personal dvd player and screen for £120 !! Under half price and about £80 cheaper than anywhere on the net!!
    So , no, I dont give a monkeys about Sainsburys lack of knowledge and cock ups. I can forgive almost anything when the price is right ;)
     
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    Probably the majority of folk would feel more comfortable with a Sainsbury guarantee than one offered by a faceless/remote net trader.
     
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    Hmmmm. I think you'll find that Misco are an absolutely massive, and highly respected, net trader. Indeed they are one of the biggest and most respected IT resellers in the UK.

    Also, Sonix appear to be a faceless/remote manufacturer whereas Acer are the third largest computer manufacturer in the world (source: Gartner Group). I know who'd get my money!

    Just my opinion!
     
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    i'd like to echo those statements! :thumbsup:
     
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    You make out that Misco's are a sole net trader. They have a retail outlet in Wellingborough so there are actually people to chat with and you can buy a lot of there stuff, at online prices, straight from the counter. Just as well coz if they don't have it then they/you need to order it from their wharehouse in Scotland. Misco is a customer of my firm so I know them quite well ;)

    My opinions, for what they are worth, are based on what I have personally experienced with either a product or a supplier unless, of course, I have said otherwise.

    If we compared Misco against Sainsburys as far as guaranteees are concerned I have personal experience with both and I know for a fact that Sainsburys would offer a new set if faulty or if not available a full refund in the first 12 months. Misco would refund/replace within 1 month from date of purchase (not too sure if its one or two months?) if faulty after that they would send away for repair. Also of course Sainsburys would happily take the tv back for whatever reason within a month so you can at least buy and try and then keep or offload back to them which is great in my estimation. I have a feeling you all know what Misco would say(like most others) if you tried to do the same!

    So, all in all, you definately wont get much assistance or clued-up staff to help you decide if they have what you are looking for in Sainsburys. Misco's on the other hand have a reasonably good customer help/service line to guide you through, even technical queries which is good. As for the retail outlet I have found the staff there to be nearly on par with Sainsbury staff!! (no kidding) I would assume its a 'keep staff salaries low coz its internet prices' type thing....but hey could still train them to know a bit more (over critical? maybe, but just because they are selling net prices from a retail outlet (Like Savastore do (Watford electronics) Luton / Eclipse Comps in Coventry and others) they should still maintain a good service considering (unlike Sainsburys) these suppliers are supposedly specialists !!

    As for details of how big a company like Acer is against the likes of the Sonix manufacturer ....Orion is it? I, to knick a famous phrase, frankly don't give a damn!! ;) Don't get me wrong...A lot can be said for big named brands. The likes of Sony and Panasonic, to name but two, have always had very good attention to detail and normally excellent build quality, finishing and dont look too bad either to most ways of thinking. BUT we are now slowly seeing a surge of unknown manufacturers (DVD players is a good example of this) that are embracing new technology and using excellent components/cases etc for a fraction of the prices the BIG BOYS out there charge. We only need to look at how cheap DVD players have become from many unknown companies mostly all confounding the magazines and giving excellent value for money with great picture quality per pound!! In fact many are offering DVD players complete with full function remotes (and I mean 'full') with Divx playback/HDCD etc and every other playback you could possibly want for £30 ....Looking at how the prices have fallen on the big brands goes to show how normally overpriced they are and if the quality of the 'unknowns' continues at this level throughout the audio/visual spectrum of products then unless the Big Brands bring in their new products at much lower prices from the launch date they will lose out heavily I feel. Because at the end of the day the stalwarts that have always bought Sony or Sharp whatever will begin to realise there is something as good but far less money around the corner.

    Hopefully we will all benefit from the competition these small companies are giving and we wont be ripped of any more. Not with electrical goods anyways ;)

    I've done it again haven't I !!?? Sounds like a blooming lecture :clap: Here endeth the sermon!! Just call me Pastor BADA55;) Wasn't meant to be that long but hope it makes sense anyways even if its nothing new to you ;)
     
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    and breathe :smashin:
     
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    Tooooooooo laaaaaate !!! :( ;)
     
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    It was hdcp that convinced me to go for the acer. Ordered it last night and hopefully will receive it by the weekend :)
    It's replacing my 28" thomson (pureflat) who's viewable screen was only around 26.5". Waiting for my dvi cables and xbox cables to arrive :D Looking forward to seeing the HD clips in divx and Halo 2. whats the best quality definition we can get out of a uk xbox using component?
     
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    In a word, Yes.
    Sky HD will offer full 1280x720p (progressive) resolution (other res will be supported too)
     
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    Ah, I never knew that....so I could go back and say.."hey this screen doesn't match my curtains...I want my money back please " they would refund my dosh huh :D ..I'm not planning on putting it back but its good to know that if I decide I'm not happy with the PQ I can do that ....
     
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    Anyone in Yorkshire know of any stock of these TV's?, the Two Sainsburys in York dont have any and according to an e-mail I recieved from Sainsburys yesterday they are now a discontinued model !

    thanks
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    Oh dear...well that's going to be a shame for many but I guess it was bound to happen as they were an excellent buy.
    I know the Bedford branch had loads the other day so maybe give thema ring and ask for a stock transfer to your nearest branch? Worth a try. If not then you either wait to see if anything similar comes out shortly or a Sonix with yet another different name on it ;) Maybe eBuyer will lower the price of their Video7 tv as it seems like the same model? Or even give them a call and see if they will haggle a lower price with you...Ive done that a few times now(not the easiest places to contact btw ;))

    Ps .. GOOD NEWS ON THE SONIX THREAD....Heres what Loz recons.....
    QUOTE>>>>Today, 01:41 FYI, my wife reports hot from the shop floor that the Watchmore Park branch Camberley have had a load more delivered.
    They had sold out last week when I was in there.
    So this looks like it might not be just a one off, and there is more in the supply chain.
    They also still have them in Bagshot Road Bracknell, but they never sold out and have always had plenty on display
     

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