25 years of Innovation: Happy Birthday Sky TV

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    1. Steve Withers

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    2. Trollslayer

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      I agree with what is there plus a nice thing for me - because their broadband was always meant to support on demand they put good infrastructure in place so my broadband isn't throttled!
       
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      Hi all,
      Am I the only person that is totally unimpressed by Sky TV. I subscribed late last year after a break of some ten years, and only because of the ridiculously cheap deal I was offered (mention BT Sports, it always does the trick).
      Why is it movies can never give you a better quality soundtrack than DD 5.1 or DTS (no HD soundtracks whatsoever). Why are transmissions not made in 1080p, only in 720p. I have a Pioneer SC-LX83 AV Receiver and a Panasonic 55" VT50 yet I only get full HD soundtracks when playing Blurays.
      When I first switch on my AV system, everything starts instantly, when I switch on my SKy HD box, no matter how many times I press the remote it never comes on straight away. Last night I pressed the on button twenty three times before it came on !!! I even called an engineer in and he told me that's normal for a Sky box. It's got to the stage that we don't bother with Sky and just use the internal freesat tuner on my Panasonic VT50.
      I consider it a total waste of money having Sky TV. Once my 12 month subscription is over, the box goes back.
      Chris
       
    4. dts

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      I dont think there is a high enough bandwith to give us HD audio and its a 1080i picture on most HD broadcasts,Sky have pushed the boundries from a technical standpoint...After all we only had four channels till they came along,and yes i know you pay for that privilege.
       
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      Hi DTS,
      I sort of understand what you are saying, but with the onset of 4K TV's, Sky are still unable to give us 1K transmissions !!! I was watching movies with DD5.1 and DTS soundtracks on Sky nearly fifteen years ago. How's that for progress. At least you don't need an optical digital cable anymore, Sky have now actually included a HDMI socket on their HD boxes.
      Chris
       
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      I've had a strange relationship with sky over the years. I avoided the awful picture of early satellite broadcasts but noticed the improvement when they turned digital. The big draw for me was movies not sport. I live in a Victorian property above a shop and when sky had the big push to grow I signed up, the fitters were not impressive and when I took up an offer of sky+ the fitters arrived and claimed they would never have fitted the dish on my chimney and if I wanted the new LNB and second cable I needed the special heights team (ooh! Exciting). Special heights turned out to be a bloke with a bigger ladder but he still would not fit the LNB and leads.
      With this, along with my disgust at the Murdoch's behaviour in political shenanigans, I gave up and changed to freesat. Now signed up with Netflix I don't miss sky all that much.
       
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      The sound is as good as the broadcasts allow - take that point up with the broadcasters - and with the vast majority of viewers who wouldn't know the difference.
      The problem over starting up isn't normal at all - it doesn't need an "engineer called in" to tell you that - just complain to Sky and they'll fix it.
      They won't take the "box" back - it's yours.
      There are plenty of things to complain about Sky but not these!
       
    8. MikeTheBike2010

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      Never had Sky and probably never will.
      Does anyone else know of a country anywhere in the world where you pay for satellite tv channels..... and then get adverts as well??????
      Murdoch connection puts me off as well.
      With so much available on Freesat and iplayer and Lovefilm I don't have time for anything else in a given week.
      Always amazed at the sheer cost some folk shell out every month for satellite - mind you I suppose I am lucky in that I don't care for football and am quite pleased to see less of it on "normal" tele?
       
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      Hate to break it to you, but that's ... everywhere!

      Nice article, and it's nice to see some nice stuff said about Sky without the usual Rupert Murdoch boogie-man (I don't agree with him either, but I admire his tenacity). As you pointed out, they were pushing HDTV here while BBC were still mumbling around. Granted it was as late as 2006, but better late than never.

      One thing - the concept of having an open newsroom behind the readers, what makes you think that was borrowed from BBC specifically? Wasn't that a common thing for news around the world?
       
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      Yeah, I guess you're right about that, but the Beeb had adopted that style just prior to Sky News going live so I made the leap :)

      Re Murdoch/News International - I'm certainly no fan (litotes) of either but that's not what the article was supposed to be about. It was (hopefully) more focused on the technological advances and innovations Sky has helped to drive, which I don't think can be disputed.
       
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      The article makes it sound like $ky+ just came to be by itself, this is garbage they launched Tivo here first but then discontinued the partnership with them and then launched there own version i.e. $ky + later as Tivo wasn't that much of a hit except with the more technically savvy A.V. crowd.
       
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      Garbage? Read it again.

      Specifically: "In point of fact, it wasn’t really an innovation of Sky’s making"

      The point was that the public's perception was that Sky had come up with the idea, even though that wasn't the case.
       
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      i have the full package on sky...what I have noticed in the past 12 months how poor the so called hd picture has become, they have obviously reduced the bit rate. it looks nothing more than upscaled dvd. however sky overall suits my needs. the biggest let down for me overall is the fact that sky don't offer any type of loyalty scheme, they absolutely fall down flat here...then when you get fed up enough with the "sky" high prices. you have to go through the process of being put through to retentions to request or cancel to get anything out of them.
       
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      I dropped the HD subscription for this reason plus all the repeats.
       
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      As no Sky boxes have HDMI 1.3 hardware it's a bit of an academic point really. The best audio that is currently available is the broadcast variant of Dolby Digital Plus which is backwardly compatible with HDMI version prior to 1.3.

      Several European broadcasters are already using DD+ audio on their movie channels and for studio based productions like game shows. Sky are getting a bit behind these days compared to some broadcasters.
       
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      Its the lack of loyalty towards long term subscribers that annoys me the most. They only offer you stuff when you threaten to leave. This is wrong. They should be thanking you for being with them.
      Hell I'd be happy with a few free box office movies every now and then. Or a 1% discount for every year you've been with them. ANYTHING! Just as a thank you. But they don't which is why I alternate between virgin and sky every year.
       
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      Does you electricity, gas supplier, water board, local garage, supermarket, TV licence ,etc offer 1% discount per year? What is so special about Sky?
       
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      The difference is that Sky offer discounts to new customers far more readily than to existing customers. On top of that, unlike the examples you cite, Sky is optional.
       
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      You can go off grid and generate your own electricity, many people don't have gas, you can harvest rain water, a car is certainly optional, you don't need supermarkets, and TV is certainly optional, so your argument is wrong.

      The Sky discounts are a once only offer to new customers, which you were once. If they gave you this discount every year or how ever often you want prices would have to rise to cover it.
       
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      Have you not read the top post in this forum? The thing that galls me, and the OP, is that loyalty should be valued as much, if not more, than threatening to cancel.

      My own opinion is that threats to cancel should be treated as such and the contract cancelled with no "incentive" to stay.
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      Indeed, Sky are very silly to allow themselves to be blackmailed in this way.
       
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      Incredible. Is this nonsense still being debated on yet another thread. There is a sticky on this subject. :facepalm: :offtopic:
       
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      All things are technically optional. However, in most of the cases the option to go without is impractical. You argument, while technically correct, is ridiculous.
       
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      Whatever Sky does the OLD BEEB DO IT BETTER

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      ^ Debatable. The article pointed out Sky's leadership in bringing HDTV to the UK - bar some Freeview HD trials, nobody else was making much of a move.
       
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      Actually yes, my energy supplier offers a 10% discount for paying by direct debit! Tesco send me clubcard vouchers to repay my loyalty. Petrol stations used to give away crystal glasses with purchases.
       
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      They are not loyalty discounts. Anyone can get them straight away.
       
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      Not really, Tesco only start sending out the vouchers IF you have a card, and IF you buy things to earn the points.
      The energy company only apply the discount to those customers who demonstrate their loyalty by paying i the manner they prefer.
      The petrol stations only give away glasses to those who made a purchase.

      The point of all these is that if you are loyal to a brand they give you something back. Sky don't.
       
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      Sky can't turn you into a product like Tesco can...
       

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