2001: What ratio is correct?

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  1. chrislewis

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    The new release of Kubrick's masterpiece - which is a staggeringly beautiful print by the way - is letterboxed to 2.20:1. However, in a couple of scenes there are some EXTREMELY jerky camera movements, which look for all the world like those you would find on an old pan and scan videotape. Given that Kubrick uses camera movement so brilliantly throughout the rest of this film (and all his other movies), would he really pass such a dodgy looking pan as he does at one point during the 'Discovery' sequence? In other words, does anyone know the definitive ratio in which it was shot? I know it was in three screen 'cinerama' originally.<br />Hope you can help 'cos there's a pint resting on this with my brother.

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  3. European

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    ...ahh... 2001 was shown in (among other venues) Cinerama theatres ... however, it was not filmed in the original three-strip Cinerama process (which, IIRC, has not been used since 1962), but on 65mm film, using the Super Panavision and Todd-AO processes...

    <a href="http://us.imdb.com/Technical?0062622" target="_blank">http://us.imdb.com/Technical?0062622</a>

    ...the 2.20:1 AR is correct for the 70mm prints; 35mm prints were framed at 2.35:1... the new DVD transfer correctly represents the 70mm version...

    . . . <img src="redface.gif" border="0"> . . .

    [ 16-09-2001: Message edited by: European ]</p>
     
  4. chrislewis

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    Thanks for the info, European. Unfortunately that means that I owe my brother a drink as I was CONVINCED that Kubrick would have refilmed such dodgy pans. Ho hum.

    Chris
     
  5. camarata

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    35mm scope/panavision aspect ratio is 2.66:1 not 2.35:1. To see this aspect ratio look at scope presentations on TCM and you will see the full width of the scope frame. They played the movie Camelot a couple of months back and as I have the DVD I decided to do an experiment and played the disc back in as near sync to the film as I could get and on static scenes there was a good half inch extra each side of the frame on the broadcast compared to the DVD who's ratio is given as 2.35:1. It looks like we are still missing some of the picture when we view our DVDs in widescreen. I agree 70mm films do equate to 2.20:1 as they incorporate extra height to the frame, i.e. 5 sprocket holes per frame compared to 35mm's 4 sprocket holes/frame.
     

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