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1st Projector - help required.

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by alfieginger, Aug 19, 2005.

  1. alfieginger

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    Hi all,

    About to take my first steps into the world of projectors and need a bit of help. I've ruled out DLP as I've sat through a few extended demos and can't adjust to rainbows. I'm in Bristol and all of the local specialists only deal in DLP claiming LCD is unreliable. I've taken this with a pinch of salt as there's 100's of happy LCD owners out there !!

    So my question is this, with a budget of around £1000 would I be better of going for something brand new, the Z3 and AE700 being the obvious suspects, or should I consider something like a second hand Sony HS10 or HS20. I've got no desire to spend the full £1000 just because I can.

    Will I get better results with a HS10 / HS20 than with a 'new' PJ or has technology moved on again with the newer machines.

    Many thanks, any views welcome :lease:
     
  2. Sigismund

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    Hi there. :)

    Ultimately it comes down to personal preference, or what you decide is more important to you.

    I have never seen the HS10 or HS20, but I've owned both the Panny AE700 and Sanyo Z3, and demoed the Sony HS50. As far as picture quality is concerned, I believe the Sony offers the most "solid" image, with fewer negatives than the other two pjs and is the better of the three. However, the Sanyo and the Panny have their plus points - the Panasonic has an excellent throw range, which may be important in your setup. The Sanyo comes with a three year warranty, a free bulb voucher and can be bought for less than £800.00 :smashin:

    If I were in your position I would probably wait for a secondhand Sony HS50 to be advertised in the Hardware for sale forum - one went not too long ago for £900.00 I think.

    As this is your first pj, then you could do a lot worse than buy the Sanyo - even if you got upgradeitis in 18 months time you could sell it with a long warranty, and a possible bulb voucher!

    Good luck!

    :)
     
  3. DEANO-B

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    I've viewed the Sony HS50 and was very very dissapointed (and suprised). It produces a dull image in my opinion and would steer clear. Most people on these forums will disagree all day on which is the best PJ for the money, and I think spending £1000+ you really should be looking at a day trip to the nearest dealer to you to view for yourself. Take note of what to look for (RBE/VB etc.) and make sure the PJs you demo are setup correctly (correct screen gain/lighting etc.). 3 of us a couple of weeks ago took 2 and a half hours to view 3 PJs, which may seem a long time, but messing with settings is essential and time consuming.
    As far as LCD PJs being unreliable - if that was the case I don't think Sanyo would offer a 3 year warranty, or that an extra 3 years warranty (so 4 in total) for a Panny 700 would be £135.
     
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    Thanks for those comments,

    The problem I have is that there aren't any dealers locally who have LCD projectors available to demo. I don't doubt the reliability of LCD personally, it's the reason that my local dealers give for not stocking LCD.
    I'd gladly spend a day auditioning to get the right PJ but it's getting LCD demo's that causes difficulty.

    I'd read about the HS10 / HS20 on threads on here and they 'appeared' to offer good performance - there's a HS10 in the for sale section for around £450 I think ? I was trying to figure out if the Z3 / AE700 were as good or better than the sony.

    Hope that makes sense !!
     
  5. DEANO-B

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    Oh! Thats just asking for a long argumentitive thread! I have not seen the Z3, but it is supposed to be a cracking machine (and now at the low price :eek: ). I've seen the Sony HS50, and own the 700. All 3 of us who saw the Sony HS50 thought it sucked (big time) prefering the 700 and Optoma H30a (RBE aside) in a normal DVD viewing. I don't want to get this thread moving to a 'mines best' thread as that's what usually happens, but I really think the 'day trip to demo' is the best option. I know it may be out of your way but it is a big purchase! Be warned though people often buy a PJ as a blind purchase, and then state it's the best PJ in the world! (although mine is :devil: ).
     
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    Deano where did you see the extra 3 years warrantee for that price. :eek:
     
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    Warrant EX
     
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    Cheers. :thumbsup: I notice it would also cover a HS50, for the same price.
     
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    Well I guess if the HS50 is an upgrade on the HS10 / HS20 then they can't be that fantastic if the HS50's not much cop.

    The last thing I want to do is start a 'mines better than yours' thread which is why I wasn't asking for yet another Z3 'vs' AE700 comparison. Just trying to get my head around brand new or slightly older but cheaper !
     
  10. Neil in Bristol

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    Where did you see a demo, Deano-B?

    There have been 3 threads in the last week alone (I started one of them) where people have asked where they can see a demo of either a Z3 or AE700, but nobody seems to know.

    The dealers I've contacted in this area seem to specialise in DLP only.
     
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    Krish Audio do demos I believe of both the Z3 and the 700.
     
  12. Neil in Bristol

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    Thanks for that. I was starting to wonder if anywhere did demos!
     
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    I managed to demo the Sony hs50 Sanyo z3 and Panasonic700 down here in Devon.I also managed to see the Sanyo at the Bristol show in November and was very impressed.
    Problem with demos is just how well set-up are they and does the assistant have a clue what he's talking about.After taking my own dvd's that I knew very well and allowing for the differing demo conditions,plus,of course,the wealth of knowledge from users on these forums,I ended up buying the Sony and can honestly say I have not regretted a single minute. :D
    I believe the Panasonic store in Torquay has a 700 to demo.Not sure about the Sanyo.If you are down this way and desperately need to see the Sony in action feel free to contact me.
    Whatever you buy will I'm sure bring a smile to your face. :thumbsup:
     

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