There have now been around 7 reports of the 17min bug still affecting V1 boxes. However, all these reports have come from very early versions of the V1 box. 9F 2002 - 9F 2006 I have a V1, version 9F 2024 and a 120Gb Maxtor HDD I have finished copying everything I want to keep from the planner, despite the copy function not working properly last night. I have power cycled the machine 3 from standby and around 9 times from dual record, sometimes whilst watching something else from the planner. My HDD is currently 93% full. I did have it upto 96%, I have deleted some recordings and some are set to keep. I have absolutely no sign of any bug It does look like the 17 min bug is only affecting early V1 models. I can never be 100% certain of this. However, no one can be confidfent their HDD will never fail, they all will (even if it takes 69 years ) My final test will be to fill the drive completely and then to power cycle a few more times. When the 17 min bug still existing on V1 reports started appearing I did consider a V2 with a 250Gb drive. However, this would cost around £300. The V3 goes on sale for £400 in October. It is made by Thompson who made the TIVO box so it is not unreasonable to expect added functionality from a software update; the current boxes may not be able to handle this. I would also expect the price to drop significantly upon release. Sub £300 after Christmas???