12 months with the Nissan Leaf....far from perfect, but it's the future :)

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  1. Alan CD

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    Yes, the PodPoint might automatically cut out with a built in overload circuit, but more likely to self-limit as you say.

    The existing underground armoured cable from our house to the garage is heavy duty - more than 13 amps. I would guess the safe max power the cable can take is 20 amps as per the circuit breaker.

    So it looks like the 3kW PodPoint will be fitted.
    Quick check: I = P / V = 3000 / 240 = 12.5 amp.

    Yep, so a 13 amp 'trickle feed' charger required.
     
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    Imagine a few years ago if I'd told you that your 3kW 3 bar fire was only using a trickle :laugh:
     
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    And imagine being told how cheap it was being on for 8 hours a day :laugh:
     
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    Had a test drive of a 24KwH Acenta Leaf today. Half thinking about trading my Kia C'eed for one.

    I don't do a lot of miles. In the last two years about 15000, the vast majority of which is around the local area. The Kia is only a 1.4 but at the point we pulled into the garage was showing an average of 35mpg since the last fill up.

    Impressions of the leaf were pretty good. Nice to drive. But the cabin wasn't quite as roomy as I hoped. I have to twist slightly getting in and out as the steering wheel is in the way of my left leg. And the space behind me while driving would be ok for my daughter (until she grows) but not enough for either of my sons.

    Liked the controls, the screen and the actual driving was very pleasant and fuss free. Even took it for a motorway blast during an extended test drive and was impressed with it.

    They had a 15 reg Acenta 24KwH in red with 14k miles and a free charge point for £12.5k they reduced to £11k with £7.5k against my car (pretty much book value).

    If only the cabin has been just that tiny bit bigger...

    Thoughts on the deal for that spec?
     
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    We have the 2017 Acenta 24kWh and my wife is 6 foot and I'm 6'2" and we find it more than spacious enough, even in the back. Is your family extra tall? Did you try moving the steering wheel at all?
     
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    I'm 6'3, youngest is 6'1 and only 14 so will grow. Eldest is 6'4 with 36" inside leg and 16 and also still growing.
     
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    Ah, I see the potential problem... :thumbsup:
     
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    From what I've seen in the showrooms the Ioniq appears bigger than the Leaf which might suit you better for size. However, the Ioniq is a new release so might have problems in getting an older model! :)
     
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    I test drove one today thinking i would love it and to be honest I just thought it was okay, quite bummed about it really as I wanted a new toy. Perhaps I was expecting too much? I can't even say what it was that I thought was lacking.

    Saying that I might change my mind by the morning :)
     
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    The ioniq does seem bigger so worth checking out.... The niro (sister car from Kia) has slightly better headroom in the back but the electric is not out yet, later this year I think
     
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    The Ioniq is well above my budget currently.

    May look again next year and see how their used values are standing up when we have the new leaf and possibly other cars on the market.
     
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    I went from a Kia Rio (the most economic diesel at the time) to a Nissan Leaf Tekna. I loved the Rio, but no regrets at all. I'm 6 foot 3.
     
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    Funnily enough most reviews I've read say the Ioniq is smaller inside than the Leaf. Certainly in the back seats.

    If you're brewing a squad of giants I don't think it would work.

    Find one for a test drive and check the height but I've definitely seen reports that the roof height in the back isn't great for the taller passenger.
     
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    Test drove a leaf and an i3 at the weekend. I was pleasantly surprised by the leaf,lots of toys, very easy to drive and a lot more spacious than my 1 series.

    The i3 was less impressive, the doors are awkward and it was very cramped in the back. Loved the acceleration though but the size and the price means it has been struck off the list.

    The positives for my use (16 miles a day) far outweigh the negatives. I just need to get over how butt ugly it is!

    I have made some enquiries on car wow and getting quotes of just under 20k for a new Tekna with metallic paint. Just need to see what that relates too on PCP.
     
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    It’s not that bad.

    In the dark. From inside. If you squint. From certain angles.
     
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    It will grow on you and eventually you'll get to love it and not look back :love:
     
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    With these deals, how to Nissan deal with general wear and tear on the car?

    I've got 3 children and I'm sure there will be spillages and possibly some things breaking, like trim/knobs etc.

    Do they charge for these at the end of the deal? Is this clearly explained in the contract?
     
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    I'll let you know in 3 years :) AFAIK There is supposed to be an industry standard for what constitutes fair wear and tear for the purposes of pcp "purchases".
     
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    Anybody else got any experience with this kind of thing. Specifically to the Leaf, or not.
     
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    All the Leaf/Zoe PCP deals are run by RCI, who run the PCP/finance of all Nissan/Renault cars.

    There is some general guidance the inspectors stick to, ours was used as main family car, I washed it twice in 2 years, and only cleaned the interior once just before hand over. I had some small scratches around the door handle, and very minor kerbing on one wheel, inspector on the day didn't care, said it was nice to see a car that's been cleaned for once and didn't charge me for any damage.

    Oh, I doubt your be able to break any trim in the car, its pretty well screwed together.

    Wear and Tear Guide | Acceptable | Damage | Responsibility - What Car? Leasing
     
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    I really like the below guide as it is time based, so allows for people who have had a car a lot longer.

    https://www.cap.co.uk/media/2354/caphpiconditions.pdf

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    We handed our leaf back nearly 2 months ago. It was around 2k over on miles. The inspector picked up all sorts including the paint job on the rear not being great where my wife reversed into a post box despite the rear camera!!!! Not heard anything back from them so assume no charge is being made.
     
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    Had a Ford Ka a while back on PCP and I never actually got to the point of handing it back. I traded it in 3 months prior to my deal ending and used the equity to clear the finance. I will probably do the same with my new Leaf (arriving this weekend) which negates the worry of excess mileage or wear and tear. I had been under the impression with my last car that I had to either settle with Ford or hand it back but it was only a chance conversation with another dealer that cleared it up.
     
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    That works fine unless the GFV/final payment is far more than the actual car is worth. No dealer was going to give me enough trade in to clear the finance on the Leaf so it went back to Nissan.
     
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    There's a fair chance we might hang onto ours if the new ones don't come in at a similar price to when we got ours, but I don't fancy paying more than market value for it it. I wonder what the chances of negotiating to buy it at or near market value will be?
     
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    How have owners found the insurance premiums, compared to other similar sized ICE cars?
     
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    No difference in premium from the Seat Ibiza we replaced our leaf with.
     
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    Good to know anyone else got any comparisons please?
     
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    Went from a 52 plate 318i BMW and the insurance went up by £150...but that is because my wife had a small accident and we lost 9yrs NCB....if she hadn't been on the policy it'd have been slightly cheaper than the BMW from the quotes i was getting in.
     

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