12 months with the Nissan Leaf....far from perfect, but it's the future :)

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    Economy 7 rates might bring down night time charging, but might put up daily electric costs as well. Not everything can be done during the cheaper ours and the non-cheap costs are generally more expensive than standard rates.

    We used to have E7 and moved away from it due to the inconvenience.
     
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    That's what I mean. Look at those peak time costs! If you can avoid them, great. We couldn't.
     
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    Yep - you would need to do a significant amount of overnight energy use. Charging the family electric car fleet would presumably be one of these things.
     
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    Yes, I costed it up and for the low miles we do it wouldn't be cost effective.
     
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    I have moved to TIDE and am waiting on smart meter being fitted. that will get my cost per mile down to 5p per kwH. Today on trip from home to client in Brentwood and back i averaged 5.8kwH per mile. So if you jsut charge at home on one of those low rates the savings over diesel is significant (my passat tdi's all did around 45mpg average)
     
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    Hopefully that is the wrong way around. 58 KW batteries would get you 10 miles :eek:

    Unless my maths is wonky which is quite possible.
     
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    Yes, I'm sure he means 5.8 miles per kWh
     
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    yes iu'm tired....5.8miles per kwH. It was 6.1 on way there in morning as i didnt have aircon on
     
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    Correction, Mrs IG is getting 4.2 miles per KWh at the moment.
     
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    I get about 3.3 miles per Kwh...

    I have a heavy foot!

    I pay about 6c per unit at night, and 16c per unit in daytime, (Ireland).
     
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    The front and rear looks much nicer than the old model [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
     
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    Should of kept it looking like the concept imo.
     
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    Maybe next time eh [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]
     
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    Those 'spy shots' always make me laugh. Those look like the car is on public roads. It has a number plate and it seems the driver is posing for the 'spy'. By the time the vinyl wrap shots appear nowadays it is usually like this - some 'exclusive' spy shots at a 'secret location'. The original 'proper' spy shots used to be the ones where it was long range at the known maker testing place with body work and various panels added to actually hide the car shape and features. The photographer would be outside the facility up a tree or similar to get the shots. Certianly not a perfect set/sequence of shots of the car happening to pass by a photographer who would have a pro camera and gubbins stood at the side of the road.
     
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    Anyone have thoughts on what this will do to the prices of current leafs? In the market for one but don't seem to be many deals around
     
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    I doubt value will change much unless the range goes up significantly.
     
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    Seen a tiny bit more today and it looks as though it may have one of the floating roof designs going on , front and rear lights are looking much better than previous , doesn't appear to be much of a change to the interior ....
     
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    Have a question regarding fitting a charging point in the garage.

    My garage is separate from the house and has an electric door, power and light, so has a 13 amp feed from the house via an armoured underground mains cable.

    Is it OK to trickle charge the battery overnight with the EV parked inside the garage with the garage door closed?

    It's a single garage with a tall pitch roof. I'm thinking of any fumes given off during charging or maybe some other issue in an enclosed space.
     
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    They use Li-ion batteries so in theory there are no fumes. Only issue I can see is that they need a "dedicated" 13A feed if using the 13A plug lead, so if the total capacity of the entire garage is 13A you may have a problem.
     
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    Ta.

    Opening and closing the electric garage door will of course draw some power.

    The mains feed to the garage is on a dedicated trip switch in the consumer unit in the kitchen, must check tomorrow to see what the trip amperage is.
     
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    Ours finally arrived today. Liking it very much so far, and even looks good from certain angles!

    Enlight2.jpg
     
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    Nice colour :)
     
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    jassco: Looking at another forum that specialises in EV's i can see that the monthly PCP costs for the Leaf have gone up again this quarter due to iminishing GFV (guaranteed future values). I expect that once the new Leaf is revcealed and it's spec's that will make this even worse. The only hope for better deals is if Nissan have a poile of parts or units they need to shift before the new one is being built i think
     
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    Yup I've just seen similar myself, so looks like we'll be signing up for a leaf shortly. The price is coming down slightly from talking to a few dealers. Pretty much at 250 a month which I think is my biting point. I might pay a little more for it in gunmetal rather than red, though that pic from @davisa looks nice!
     
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    It's the basic (free) flame red. Looks really good (when clean) in the right light. Looks more "tomato sauce" red in other light, which isn't quite so nice.
     
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    The dedicated feed to the garage on the mains distribution panel is through a 20 amp circuit breaker so well within the requirements of a 13 amp EV charging point.

    :smashin:
     
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    Great News :thumbsup: If you go for a free PodPoint, don't let them talk you into paying extra for a 7kW charger, unless they are going to run you a new 32A feed into the garage :D

    Interesting question: I know you can plug a 3kW onboard charger into a 7kW PodPoint, because that's what we do. I wonder what happens if you bought a car with a 7kW charger and plugged it into a 3kW PodPoint, I hope it would self limit to 3kW.

    You can ignore all this Alan if you plan on just using a 13A socket
     
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    The old one will be run out before the new one gets built , that's how it works ....
     

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