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1080p plasmas from Pioneer, Hitachi and Panasonic this year.

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by gizlaroc, Aug 12, 2005.

  1. gizlaroc

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    Stop it gizlaroc....I refuse to be tempted lol
     
  3. gizlaroc

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    I was going to order the 50PHD7 this morning from av-sales, but ended up in London all day so didn't get round to it, then saw this and thought about it and have decided I can live with my 42" for another 12 months (sorry Alastair! ;) ) and then get a 1080p screen to go with all the new scalers that will be out too.

    Better start hiding some cash from my wife!
     
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    its not only me who hides cash then
     
  5. gizlaroc

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    Oh no, defintely not, I bet 90% of users here don't quite tell the truth regarding the price of the latest gadget they bought!

    Only yesterday I popped into John Lewis and bought an ibook, and I paid £500 on switch and the other £200 cash, force of habbit to tell her things are cheaper than they actually are! :)
     
  6. bxd

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    Hi,

    All very well waiting for a 1080/50incher.... but SED displays will probably show up the following year and you'll probably want one of them.

    Brian
     
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    well, quick jab or reality time;

    1080 progressive. We are talking HUGE bandwidth. The screen may be able to display it, and you may find equipment to match normal HD signals or lower to it, but 1080p broadcasts? Can't see that happening in the next ten years, that is like feeding a herd of elaphants down the pipe.
     
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    I have read that 1080P takes less space digitally than 1080i due to how MPEG compression works. I believe MPEG just saves the changes in the picture between frames. Each frame is not stored individually. Only, once every 2 sec? is a total new frame transmitted. One of the reasons it takes longer to lock onto a digital picture compared to analogue. You have to get a fresh frame to start. With 1080P the frame is larger but you are only saving the changes between frames. With 1080i you have 2 fields per frame and each field has to store the changes between subsequent fields individually. So the initial fields might be smaller but you have 2 to deal with. Again 1080i was developed for analogue broadcasts where interlace signals can save space but not digital. When HDTV was developed technology wasn't as advanced as it is today.

    I think thats how it works but i might be wrong
     
  9. Koing

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    Yes something like that but they won't be using the MPEG algorithm to do the 1080P though. It will be the newer H.264 or the HD WMP ones. They are more efficient but you need a fast processor and setup to run it currently. Later it will be less demanding.

    Koing
     
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    The H.264 is pretty impressive, its finding its way into cctv compression,it nearly halves the required storage from mpeg4 and pq is good.

    I'm not sure how tv's will hanle it as a pc needs a decent cpu to deal with it.
     
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    simple

    tv's will be having a cpu in them

    Alex
     
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    Mate, I think if every forum member is honest.... would be close to 100% ......

    the practice is alive and well down under....
     
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    Excellent, a global lie! :)
     
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    I'd say the practice is universal, from the conversations I have with clients!
     
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    Maybe I tell a little white lie now and then about the cost of the kit, but when I'm told the new handbag was only £20 I dont feel so bad :)
     
  16. gizlaroc

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    Haha.

    My sig used to say....

    No Darling......I've had it for months, probably had it as long as you have had those ****in' shoes!
     
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    If you have 1080i broadcast of material originally captured progressively...ie film...and you have a video processor capable of 2:2 or 2:3 detection then you DO have 1080P source material. The original 1080P frames can be reconstituted........and there's alot of 1080i material kicking around.

    Gordon
     
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    Back to the OP for a moment, are we really likely to see 1080 x 1920 50" plasmas?

    I was under the impression that due to minimum pixel width, 1024 was the maximum you could get in a 37", and 1366 the max in a 50". So getting 1920 in a 60" would be pushing it a bit as it is, and in a 50" may be expecting too much?

    Roll on 1080p, even though it will be expensive. Yes, of course it does take much more space to store and transmit that 1080i - otherwise nobody would bother with interlacing! But no matter, we presently have scalers that give us good 576p from 576i even from 50/60Hz video, let alone film source. So I always argue that the same will happen with 1080i.

    Nick
     
  19. Neil F Holland

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    Can't wait to see it... many LCDs can produce this already... Anyone seen an HTPC 1080p clip on an Aquos 45"?

    Tasty I'd imagine...
     
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    Euro 1080i is not too shabby either. Except for the content that is. That's the main trouble with HD, what is there to see?
     

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