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1080i, 1080, 720p and (futures)videogames,blue-ray,hddvd,wmv hd: What tv to buy??

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  1. zlatan-italian

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    XBOX2 GAMES WILL SUPPORT PROGRESSIVE SCAN 720p OR HD 1080i?


    Hello, I'm italian gamer , I would like to buy this tv crt JVC HV-32P37S or the new model (in a few weeks it will be the new model HV-32P40BU ) that support via component 480p and 1080i, the only one of its kind in Europe supports the 1080i high definition, BUT NOT 720p.I've already seen the xbox games in most cases support 480p, and in a few cases (dragon's leair, enter the matrix) the 720p and 1080i-p, I woul like to know if the xbox2 games will be in 720p o 1080p? Now I modify the consolle for to have the possibility to play with the xbox pal with progressive scan , how do it the same with xbox2? What television do you raccomend for the purchase and use in the next future for the dvd, hddvd, blue-ray, etc.? ? I don't want to buy the plasma or lcd because are worse and very expensive.There's no tv CRT support 720p in Europe. I need of your big advice....

    Thank you.
     
  2. BrianC

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    I'd go for anything other than a CRT if you are going to buy a HDTV now, something like the optmia RD50.
     
  3. hornydragon

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    very few none plasma/LCD panel displays will handle 480i/p 576i/p 720p and 1080i/p also the JVC is very rare being able to handle these and is superb TV a mate has the 36" DIST set and Xbox looks superb........
     
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    hornydragon, are you sure it'll take 720p? I didn't think it would, and I'm sure this will be the main HDTV format for consoles.
     
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    no i dont think it will, however there arent really any other CRTs in that price range that have component let alone take a 720p signal
     
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    My HV36P38SJE 36" JVC will do 480P,575P and 1080I via component.
     
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    Not much cop for the next gen consoles or sky's HDTV service then :(

    Shame as its a great set for the money.

    See my answer, the Optoma Themscene RD50 is probably the best bet (at twice the price), it'll do all the formats mentioned.
     
  8. zlatan-italian

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    What's the Optoma Themscene RD50 ? Are you sure the 720p will be the main hdtv format for the consolles and not 1080??
    Plasma and Lcd during few years and are very exprensive....
     
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    NOBODY knows what the new services will output at best its an educated guess but the consoles and STB will have options... the Qualitv Euro 1080 (HD1) STB has selectable 1080i 720p and 576i outputs over various cables scart (576i) 3RCA and DVI at 720p and 1080i.................JVC is cracking for the money and are you prepared to wait another 2-3 years before deciding on a new TV.
     
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    As far as I am aware, Sky has decided on 720p, as has the majority of the US HDTV market, but really Sky is only a concern for people in the UK (but will drive TV specs & sales for all EMEA), I have no idea what formats will be supported in Italy.

    The consoles & more importantly the games for the consoles will be predominantly aimed at the US market (it is the largest after all). The US is pretty much a 720p shop, it doesn't take a genius to work out which format the large majority of games will support - the extra processing power and time (which equals money - there are more graphic artists on games than on programmers now) in development developing a suitable graphic assets for 1080i (simply scaling textures will look poor and defeat much of the object) will be too much for the average game.

    I'm predicting another NTSC/PAL conversion fiasco with the up coming generations 720p and 1080i.
     
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    see my answers above for the formats.

    The RD50 is a new RPTV (rear projection TV) that is meant to be at least the equal of a similar sized plasma screen.
     
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    i don't like rearprojections ....
    In italy we've skybox , not yet sky+.... :mad:
     
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    I think you are seriously limiting your options by not looking at rear projection TVs, there will be no CRTs that support all 480p/576p/720p/1080i, there may be some launched when we get closer to the Sky HDTV service launch, I'd be surprised if so didn't come out then.

    Your other alternatives is LCD or Plasma, the RD50 RPTV is meant to be at least as good as the current best from Pio or Panny.
     
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    Rearprojections have the problems of during light, big dimensions and the corner vision....
     
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    I'm not pretending that RPTVs are as good as a CRT when compairing SDTV sources on a similar sized screen, but the new RPTVs are much closer, I recommend you go look at the RD50, I think you will be in for surprise - the old problems don't affect the new units in quite the same way.
     
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    RD50 is £2k he was looking at Sub £800 TV BrianC £"k will get a 42" plasma that will take all those signals + more and not have any of the RPTV drawbacks RPTV have always been very good and inch/£ (cm/€) but at a restriction in usability (ambient light , viewing angle, cabinet size......and although they are getting better still not that different from 5 years ago..............
     
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    Hornydragon have you tried the RD50, or are you basing your comments on other RPTVs?

    £2K does not buy much of a decent HD Plasma, both the relevent models from pio & panasonic cost significantly more, and to get the same screen size as the RD50 with native 720p pixal mapping you need to go to a 50" plasma rather than the 43", they still cost over £3.5K last time I looked :(
     
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    I think hornydragon is trying to save this guy some money. My 36" JVC only cost me £900 in the Currys bank holiday sale. There is no way I could afford that size of tv at any other time.

    Back on topic,

    Surely when hidef does arrive mainstream there will be some sort of box that will upscale or downscale as joe public (me) will not be happy forking out for another tv?
     
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    The decoder boxes for HDTV will output at SD resolutions if required, but what would be the point of paying for HDTV and then watching it at SD?
     
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    For me personally, my tv will accept 1080I and not 720P so upscaling would be good, but fair point.
     
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    I agree brian but this guy was not looking for A: a 50" display B: Didnt state having a budget of up to £2K C: State he had enough space for a 50" RPTV in his lounge.... I certainly dont
    but if you want to spend £2k have loads of space and want a set compatible with most/all HD resolutions then the RD50 is an excellent option :offtopic: :offtopic: :offtopic:
     
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    In Italy jvc 32'37SUE costs 1200E :( the new model 32P40BU changes only for the color black)... I don't know what to buy....
     
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    black looks sexier mate.... especially with XBOX and PS2
     
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    just my bit

    Got an Xbox running an X3 chip - with component leads to my JVC :thumbsup:

    Easy setup

    Just set the video output to 1080i in the xecutor3 menu

    DVD's looks great and all games work :smoke:

    Xbox Media Centre - stream music and movies ( mp3's, divX etc... ) off the PC through the xbox to your JVC - :thumbsup:
     

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