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  1. Soundwave

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    Right guys well the time has finally come to sell the Clio 172 & clear some debts :(

    And as such I will require the service of a cheap reliable coupe to run aroun din for the next 18 months or so while I get back on the financial straight & narrow.

    I have done some research & I'm considering one of the following...

    Honda Preulde 2.0i
    Toyota MR2 (MK2)
    Toyota Celica
    Vaxhaull Calibra

    Now each one is within the £2k budget & none of them will increase my insurance payments (in most cases the premium comes down & only the Honda will cost me the same as I'm currently paying) so just wanted to see which way you would go?

    I dont know if makes much difference I have never driven a RWD car on the road (I've tracked an Elise, BMW 330ci & a Honda S2000) so I'm a bit nervous with the mk2 MR2 as I've heard some horror stories about it being a bit tail happy in the wet & I dont know if I'd be a bit scared about overcooking it when I drove it so I may well strike that one from the list yet.

    Anyway I'd love to hear your opinions & recommendations...my budget is firmly set at £2k MAX no more, so please no recommendations over that price.

    Thanks in advance.

    Neil
     
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    i know its fun to have a sporty car, but if your in debt and having to sell your car, should you really be buying expensive coupe's etc? the repair bills wont be cheap if something goes wrong.

    your best off getting a cheap common car as if things do go wrong they are cheaper to fix, and they are cheaper on the insurance too!
     
  3. Mylo

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    I'd add the Rover 200 coupe or even the turbo (Tomcat) version to your list. £2k should easilly get you a nice one.
     
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    Honda Civic Coupe?
    if you fancy some top down action a Fiat Barchetta (LHD only)?
    MGF (mid mounted and great fun)
    Fiat Coupe (turbo is wicked and 20V is smooth)
    your are in Porsche Money so if you dont do alot of miles and can get a classic on classic insurance there are a few tidy Porsche 924 out there for £2k theres also the porsche with Audi engine and running gear bomb proof mechanicals.
    A Tomcat (good one is lovely but watch the head gaskets!)
    Infact there is good choice of Porsche 924/944 for £2k but i would be very choosye and have them indepenadtly inspected etc as maintenancecould be huge but its a modern classic and could actually appreciate in value
    Or something different a Subaru Legacy

    How many miles do you do?
     
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    MGF 1.8VVC with some mods is very very fast!

    i had one and with about 1k of mods it was extremely fast, pulled straight to the limiter in 4th gear without any hesitation at all :eek: and not bad in 5th, but by then you are doing 130mph with no roof :rolleyes:

    also it would leave the 172 standing, especially in the handling separtment :thumbsup:

    but im not biased, first up the mr2 is going to be way to slow for you, unless you get a turbo ;)

    prelude 2.2 vtec, very nice and quite rapid :D

    celica again too slow

    calibra's are just a bit poo in general, do you really want a 2dr chavalier? hardly a poser mobile :rotfl: and they are slow also, even the 16v will seem gutless compared to your 172 :thumbsup:

    the best car there is probably the prelude, fast and reliable with a low depreciation :thumbsup:
     
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    I knwo what your saying & I have looked into but my main reason for something sporty is I do a fair chunk of motorway miles & work around an industrial estate so I would prefer something with some "go" to get in & out of big's lorries ways if you see what I mean & I'm not impressed that a 1.1/1.2 hatchback would do that without scaring the pants off me everytime I need to get on & off the M25 roundabout ;)

    Hornydragon,

    I probably hit between 13,000-15,000 a year depending on how often I go backwards & forwards to my mates in Kent so unfortunatley as much as I'd love the 924/944 variety I just dont think it would be viable...especially if things go wrong :(

    I hadnt considered a Civic Coupe, drove one ages ago & loved it so will look into that, as well as the Rover Coupe, had heard good things about the Tomcat

    Barchetta & MGF while both lovely looking cars I'm not really a big drop top fan & with winter fast approaching I'd rather have something that I dont need to worry about frost on the inside with as well as the outside ;)

    Fiat Coupe is sounding ok though although the Turbo is pretty hefty on the insurance plus I've heard servicing can be a real pain, especially at cambelt time??

    Thanks for the advice so far it's appreciated :)

    Neil
     
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    You should be able to find yourself a decent Rover Coupe for £2000 these days.

    I picked up a '97R 1.8VVC for I think £2200 this time last year, absolutely immaculate, with a years ticket, and full leather. :cool:

    They're a much better car to drive than either the calibra (just poo), celica (too slow) or even the prelude, (the prelude is quite a bit faster, but IMO nowhere near as much fun to drive)

    Gp15 for the VVC engine, Gp16 if you fancy the 2.0 Turbo


    - The Fiat Coupe is a great motor as mentioned, but I couldn't find a decent enough one at that price when I looked, shame as I always wanted one...
     
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    If you want soemthing different an MGF with hardtop and spoiler looks stunning (if a bit cramped) i used to work for a rover dealer so know a fair bit about the MGF and other options i always prefer street sleepers to cars that look fast (Rover 200Vi anyone) if your lmileage had been in the 6k mark a classic porsche would have been a tidy prospect (depending on insurance) I had a mate who at one time had 3 Fiat Coupes he had a blue turbo the missus had a red 2.0 and they shared yellow 20V for the weekend! (but on a hot august day on a windy road the Turbo was outrun by 1.2 corsa! he was blaming the ECU for dropping the boost as it was so hot!!!! my missus was the corsa driver and she got some serious respect for that
     
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    another that may fit would be the VW Corrado, although I suspect they still demand big money even now.
     
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    a few on autotrader between 90-95with 80-170,000 on the clocks (thats a nationwide search)
     
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    I had thought that as well...but your right still daft money which is a shame as they look fantastic :(

    Been looking at Rover Coupe's now & found an R Reg with FSH 58,000miles full cream leather, Targo top & air con for £1995 from a dealer :eek: :eek:

    Seriously tempted to go for a look over the weekend, it's a pain that I need to lose the Clio first :(

    Neil
     
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    go and have a look and if you love it and it drives well leave them a crisp £50 and book an RAC/AA inspection
     
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    What about a Mitsubishi FTO? A freind of mine has just sold a M reg one today with the tiptronic gearbox for £1000:eek:
    Admittedly it needed the paint touching up, and the wheels refurbing, but would have made a good coupe for the money. And they go like stink!

    You can pick them up for under £2k now easily
     
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    and did you ask him what the insurance was on it? last year i was quoted 6k minimum on my insurance for one of them... what can i say... i didnt buy it :p
     
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    I was looking at the old classic BMW 635CSI recently, until I noticed it wouldn’t fit in my garage :oops:

    Will have to wait till I but a new house, beautiful classic coupe though
    :smashin:
     
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    WHAT?? 15 posts and no mention of the blindingly obvious choice - the MAZDA MX6!!! :eek: ;)

    Seriously, though, i used to own an MX6 and it's the best car i've ever had. Fast, stylish, reliable and handled superbly despite being wrong wheel drive.

    Engine is a 2.5V6 and is creamy smooth - it'll pull happily in 5th gear from 20mph (it even says this in the owner's manual!) and yet the only time i realised i'd hit the 7200rpm rev limiter was because the acceleration tailed off a bit! It gave 28mpg no matter how stupidly i drove it, was comfortable with lots of toys and personally i still don't think it looks dated.

    I had to get rid of mine before i wanted to as i proposed to the then girlfriend and it had to go to help pay for the wedding/honeymoon. However, if i can't talk the (now!) wife round to the idea of me having the Range Rover i've always wanted in a few months time, then i'm going for another MX6.

    Only caveat is - don't take it to a Mazda dealer for servicing as their charges are horrendous. You're better off finding a specialist or even trying a Ford dealer, since the Probe was the same car (with a 10,000 mile service interval instead of the Mazda's 6,000 mile one - not sure how that works!).

    Regarding some of the other cars mentioned, as i test drove quite a few before buying the Mazda, a few quick thoughts -

    Toyota MR2 - loved it but decided it really wasn't practical enough for me.

    Rover 200 Turbo Coupe - loved this even more! I will always cherish the memory of the wife sat beside me on the test drive screaming "Slow down - there's a corner coming up!!". :devil: Sadly, being 6'3" i really couldn't get the seat back far enough to be comfortable in it. i then later worked with a chap who owned one and mollycoddled it like a baby. It rewarded him by breaking down with alarming regularity..............

    Honda Prelude 2.2 VTEC - Great fun over 5500rpm, almost sluggish below this. I decided i didn't want to have to thrash it continually to make decent progress! Also hated the dashboard with its digital displays.
     
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    well you've saved me the bother :D

    they look great with the hardtop on :cool:

    another good thing is the boot.......keeps your takeaways nice and hot :D
     
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    I love read motoring comments.
    A MGF VVC would easily outhandle a 172? Oh dear, what a comment.
    And as for a lot of the other cars, speed is relative :)
    I have a Fiat 20VT too, and I dont think a 1.2corsa would lose me :thumbsup: That said, I would feel safer in the corsa if it was quite bendy.

    There are a lot of cars you can pick up for £2k, but you are taking a risk on all of them. Just make sure whatever you pick, that you find the right 1 and not the first you see (Though I am sure you would do that anyway).

    I think you need to give some hints as to what you want out of a coupe so everybody can give more relevant opinions.
     
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    :confused: well i will stick by it, and i already know you have not driven an mgf as you would know how fast they can go round a corner.

    mid engine, rwd, wide low profile tyres and <4" ride height is about as good as it gets ;)

    you can argue this point all you like, but you cannot change science, the mgf is always going to win in the handling department.
     
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    I wouldn't touch an MGF with a 20' sterilized barge pole.

    With it's hydrolastic suspension (basically off a metro), rover k series engine (loves to eat head gaskets) and so bloody awkard to get to anything engine bay!!

    Oh yeah they're great!!

    There are much better cars you could buy for the money.. that won't make you look like a hairdresser.

    You could for instance buy a Toyota st185 celica GT4 for about that money... and that will stick to corners.
     
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    Out of interest, have you actually driven either car?
     
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    Yes, my mates girlfriend had a VVC, (Head gasket blew shock horror), and my mate had a 172, and a 182. So yes, I have driven them both.
    I had a 106 GTI, and the MGF didnt keep up on the twisties near me. That said, not much did.
    I dont think you should assume that I am a fanboy, or uneducated just because I dared to disagree.

    You cant change science? So if that is the case, why do cars get modified? Or tweaked? It has mid engine and RWD, so do lots of other cars.. doesnt mean they all handle better than anything else does it?

    Have you ever seen the Clarkson video where he chose the best handling cars in the world? First was a Ferrari 550 Maranello, and 2nd... a 106 GTI.. ahead of Elise, Skyline, M3, Porches, NSX etc etc...
    I guess that 106 must have been rear wheel drive eh??
    A 106 GTI pulled more lateral G than a skyline when they tested it, and went over the fastest corner at 104.9MPH, quicker than any other. The only other car to hit 100 was the Elise.
     
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    i must have missed something, i said it would leave the clio and you start comparing it to the 106gti :rolleyes:

    and then talk of modified cars, i fail to see what that has to do with anything. as far as im aware we were talking std cars.

    look at the layout of an F1 car, i think thats enough said on the subject of car handling tbph :smashin: or if thats not enough, ever driven a go cart?

    same layout again im afraid ;)
     
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    whats with the hairdresser comments? im a 16st bodybuilder and i defo dont look like a hairdresser :confused: it was a better car than the MX5 imo and i could'nt afford an elise so was a good comprimise :)

    on the headgasket subject, it only needs changing to a decent reinforced one and there will never be problems again. i was worried until i went on the mgoc website and realised HG problems are not that common after the car has covered 20k :)

    access to the engine bay is ok for all the basic servicing, only problems i had was fitting a mahoosive induction kit....but it wasnt a std part so cant moan :D
     
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    I AM talking standard cars. You totally missed the point that I was trying to make :)
    My point was that cars are not great handling just because they are mid engine rear wheel drive. Some of these cars handle great, but so do some FWD or AWD.
    I used the 106 as a reference because I know the stats. I used this to back up that FWD cars can handle very well.
    I think you missed the points I was making :(
    Dont want a fight about it or to go off topic for the OP though, so will leave it.

    If we all thought the same car was best.. life would get very dull.
     
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    the 106gti is an exceptional car handling wise :thumbsup:

    guess i did take the post the wrong way, and i do know what you mean about the layout no being everything. it is true that the mid engine rwd setup is not always good, but it is the best basis for a chassis :)

    very surprised you found the clio better than the mgf handling wise though. out of interest was it the updated model with "normal" suspension?

    i had the hydrolastic model and it was'nt a smooth ride at all, but it did corner like a go cart!

    certainly we do need variety in life, and i guess im sounding like a bit of a fanboy myself :rotfl: however for the money the mgf did impress me, the engine is awesome with the right mods for a 1.8.
     
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    ohhhhhh, group hug :D

    every suggestion so far has been a nice car :thumbsup: Can everybody remember though that our man here is on a budget and trying to save money, whilst maintaining his motoring dignity;)
     
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    Add the Nissan 200sx touring to your list - the S14 one; well built, very reliable and go pretty well although not great looking. You should be able to pick up a 96-97 reg for two grand.

    Stu.
     
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    Why not a Peugeot 406 coupe? Lovely looking car. Not the quickest but excellent for motorway driving.
     

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