Ok, I'm getting an mp3 player, birthday in the first week of november, and I was wondering what you guys might recommend (£180 budget) I feel that a 20gb one would take me years and years to fill up, whilst a 4gb would be a little too small, but would probably suffice. I do a lot of running, so would want one that could take the abuse that would cause. At the moment I'm looking at these ones (amazon.co.uk prices) - Sony NW-HD5 20GB Network Walkman £168.10 - Sony NWA3000V 20 GB HDD £189.99 - Philips PSA615 6GB Portable Sports Audio £159.99 - Ipod Nano 4GB £174.98 Personally, I like the look of the Sony NWA3000v and the Philips. DO you know of any big issues with any of these players? Many thanks for anyone with anything to add!