£1500 Plasma dilema

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  1. kjt2004

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    Hi All

    Well im fortunate to have up to £1500 to spend at the end of the month

    So Im going to change my Plasma

    Now i love my 42"C96 its served me proud

    However I want to get a 50" and a change is as good as a rest so im looking at the Pannys (yes i know new ones are coming) but im not into the latest design etc

    I have looked at both the PZ and PX and if im honest probably prefer the looks of the PZ i could save some money and just get the 50" version of mine as i have had no problems with it at all and the PQ is great - oh decisions

    75% of my viewing is SD so whichever i choose it has to be able to produce good results with SD

    Whilst looking i also looked at the Pioneer 42" 4280 and yes i was tempted but I actually wasnt sold on the design - im not denying the PQ

    It has to be pedestal version of any of these

    Now what shall i do

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  2. kjt2004

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    well i popped in to the local comet as they had them on display

    I am now changing opinion

    I couldnt get to the PX one because of where it was mounted so i looked at the following

    50"PZ70 - i like the looks and the PQ was definitely good, however one thing i did find off putting -can any owner clarify - i changed the settings on one input went to another input and they were exactly the same:eek:
    I changed those settings went back to the other input and they were changed to what i had just set

    Surely this isnt correct same settings on all inputs - surely not :eek:

    Pioneer4280 okay i may be tempted - the looks have grown on me and it does produce a lovely overall PQ - yes its more money and only 42" but i can live with that

    Couldnt get to it to play - but i wil ---- what sort of adjustments are available on this one

    regards
     
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    I am in the same boat as you, I have a similar budget and I just want the best home cinema experience I can afford really.

    I have been deliberating over these 2 screens for a month now! Do I go for the quality Pioneer with better blacks and 24p support but it is only 42" or go for the panasonic which gives you a 50" screen for slightly less money?
    ....or wait another few months for the new pannys??

    Digital direct have some good deals on both of these at the moment, not sure what their after sales is like though.

    PDP428xd - £1428
    PDP4280xd - £1309
    50pz70 - £1270
     
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    Im in exactly the same boat as you two, had the panny ordered then told it was out of stock, thinking it might have been an omen after seeing the pio.

    the only thing holding me back from going for the pioneer is the lack of Full HD, ive got an HD dvd player and i do watch a lot of hd stuff on sky, i just dont know how much this will impact upon it, or if it makes any difference?
     
  6. kjt2004

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    Mont

    I wouldnt worry about the lack of Full Hd from what i have read the Pioneer can handle it and at 42" (if thats what youre looking at wont be visible at normal distances)

    Im in two minds because i wanted to get 50" but now after playing with the panny Although i really liked it just thought it was a major flaw if indeed one setting goes across all inputs - i wish a panny owner could confirm - i may have to trawl the threads

    Originally i wasnt to sure on the Pioneer styling although thank god thats passed and im now looking at the PQ

    As stated most of viewing will be SD(70%) as i will never pay Mr Murdoch A subscription LOL

    Decisions eh
     
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    Give it no further thought.

    The pioneer is the way to go :smashin:
     
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    Depends if you want a 50 or not. That's substantially bigger real estate and that size makes a considerable noticeable difference to ALL your viewing. It even makes a difference when it's turned off :cool:

    Both sets offer superb picture quality. One is 50, 1080p.. The other 42 and 720p.

    Up to you really, but don't underestimate the visual impact that extra 8 inches makes.
     
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    I agree with the above, you state you want to get a 50", the pz70 is the way to go.
    The 50" panny will have far greater impact than a 42" screen imho.

    What will be your viewing distance?
     
  10. kjt2004

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    Hi

    Viewing distance is 3 meters

    regards

    One thing, remember im not hooked on anything like 1080p/24fps i really dont compare specs with a toothcomb i just want the best i can afford at the time which is how these two sets have made it,

    And as already stated above The visual impact of 50" and the PQ/processing of the 42"
     
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    At that sitting distance, It's a toss up between the wow-factor of having a fifty-inch screen (50pz70) or having the TV that will actually give you the best picture (4280XD). I would base your decision on what you watch. If you have a lot of HD sources, the Panny could well be a good choice and you might benefit from its Full HD. If you watch a lot of SD, I'd definitely go with the Pio.
     
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    As you already have a 42" which you are happy with, it seems pointless getting another 42", get the PZ50" it's a lot bigger and therefore has more impact, gives a better high def image which will be increasingly important over time and really is not more than 5% different in quality (+ or -) from a Pioneer. It's a no brainer, bear in mind also that the Pioneer is no more expensive than a cheapo 42" PX70 in the US.

    Persoanlly I'd wait for the new Panny's tho.
     
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    Punkymunky's right. If you're going to upgrade it might be worth waiting a few months. Don't forget, it looks like Panasonic are launching a 46" Plasma. If you find 42" too small and 50" too big, it could be the perfect size for you.
     
  14. kjt2004

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    Thats also true

    I dont find 42" too small , but a valid point made with the 46" depending on the price that is, newer models tend to demand a premium

    Well i will keep looking thanks for the input guys

    regards
     
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    I think you must bear in mind that the new models will come out more expensive and it will be practically Christmas before they get down to the value to can purchase now from the present range.

    46 is an interesting number (I might even get one myself for the bedroom) but if you want to raise the game from a 42 to something instantly better, you need a 50 !

    Don’t fall into the trap of waiting for something new. If you do, there will always be something else coming along if you just wait a few months longer.
     
  16. kjt2004

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    Okay

    update

    Im looking at my plasma tonight Dancing on ice (the GF choise lol)
    and the PQ is lovely

    Im now steering away from the PZ as ive learned
    1) the picture settings cant be altered by input - a major oversight if you ask me yes you can alter the 3 picture modes but not individual settings by input
    2) people ahve noticed banding issues (is this the snake problem?)
    3)The speakers at the side appear imperfect

    So im now in two minds do i go with the pioneer is the PQ that superior to what i am already seeing

    decisions decisions
     
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    In the same boat as you. But have now decided to go for the PZ. I am after a 50 screen and like you it was between the Panny and the Pioneer. Went into town today and had a look at both of them. both were playing a blu-ray film and Gave and amazing pic. The pioneer probably gave the better image but IMO it was not so much better than the panny that I would pay another £1500 for it. Banding issues seem to effect some more than others, could not see any hint of it on the one in the store.
     
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    I managed to see the panny 50pz70 and the pio 428xd side by side yesterday, it was in a specialist retailer and both had been calibrated.
    It was clear that the colour reproduction and black level were much better on the pioneer, but if I stopped comparing the 2 with each other and only looked at the panny it still looked like a great image.

    I am still in two minds what to do myself, not sure I could buy the panny knowing how much better the pio is, but there is no denying the extra 8 inches really gives a more cinematic feel.

    Maybe I should just bite the bullet and buy the 508:rolleyes:
     
  19. kjt2004

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    Hi

    Yes know what you mean in the same boat

    Im now leaning to the pioneer do i really need the extra inches lol
     
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    You better buy the LX version or you'll be having sleepless night knowing it's not native 1080p...

    Give it a couple of years 720p will be joining CRT ;)

    Or just wait a few months and you can have a Panny that gives you that extra tiny bit of black for still half the cost of the Pioneers... :confused:

    Good luck :)
     
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    LOL

    And it has to be 1080 why? I dont really intend jumping on the HD wagon yet

    Remmeber 90 % of th epopulation still dont have a HD source

    Will never have sky HD me an mr murdoch dont see eye to eye

    720 will join CRT i dont think so, But it will mean that those that only want 1080 sets will let me pick up some good bargains later on
     
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    After seeing them side by side it is clear what the fuss is about over the pioneers, it was significantly more than just a "tiny bit of black", I was all set to buy the PZ but couldn't stop comparing it to the pio and now I am back to square one!
    I hear what you're saying about 1080p though, I didn't think it would make much difference but at 6 ft I could clearly see jaggies on the 42" pio were it was lovely and smooth on the 50" panny - not sure how noticeable it would be at 12 ft away though.
     
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    I upgraded from a 42" to the 50PZ and absolutely delighted with it. No regrets what so ever. After the initial "OMG, that's big" feeling, I am really pleased I went for the 50" rather than another 42". For the money, I think the PZ is tough to beat.

    Hadn't even thought about it until you mentioned it! Not an issue to me at all. I have 4 devices connected (mixture of HD and SD) and never needed to change settings between them.

    Is that "people" or "person". I know their have been some postings recently in the PZ thread about this. But didn't notice anything in the previous 140 odd pages! Not had any problems myself

    Define perfect? Not sure what you mean. Reviews say the sound isn't the PZ's strongest point, but I use an Amp whenever I watch a film, etc. So doesn't bother me. For normal TV the sound is fine.
     
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    Totally agree..... in isolation i'm sure most people would be more than happy with the Panasonic, but put it next to the Pioneer and the differences quite quickly become apparent....
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to reply

    Well i have a couple more weeks before i decide

    Im going to have to have a closer look at both soon

    My thoughts are (rightly or wrongly) that the pioneer will probably swing it

    The gf Watches mainly SD programmes so that 80% of our viewing as we dont and wont subscribe to Sky HD

    Its my idea to go up 50" which is why the Panny came into it , the Gf is happy with 42" hence the pioneer
     
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    Sounds fair enough to me. I can't argue with the quality of the Pioneer. My only struggle with them is their price :( But, if you are happy with that then I am sure you will be chuffed to bits!! Good luck.
     

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